He was told ahead of that. He is making excuses. He wasn’t at any of the school’s debate. They hate the teachers so much, they won’t even meet with the students! Guilt by association.
What the hell union do you belong to that only charges $2.00 a month for dues? You are either being sarcastic or don’t know what you are talking about.
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What the hell union do you belong to that only charges $2.00 a month for dues? You are either being sarcastic or don’t know what you are talking about.[/quote]
dues are about 32 dollars a month and yes that was sarcastic. I am making roughly 2 grand a month… so 32 bucks isnt much to ask in order to benefit myself/others down the road.
That is the BIGGEST bullshit ever. I know for a fact that teacher union dues are well over $1000 dollars a year. Hardly a “$2 dollar” a month deal.
And not only that but their union is claiming to be non-partisan AND promised never to financially back a political party, yet the Prince Rupert Teachers Union is using their members dues to help fund Gary Coons NDP campaign.
I know SEVERAL teachers who are ROYALLY pissed about this and for this fact alone are voting Liberal (all of which voted NDP in the last election)
Why blame Bill Belsey for not showing at the CHSS and PRSS schools to campaign. Less then 10% of the school population will be voting and besides he was preparing for the “Young Liberals” barbeque, which I attended.
I should add that he is showing his appreciation to us younger voters who are placing out trust in his hands, since alot of us will be voting for the first time.
IMO him showing up to show his appreciation to us (a good 30 young adults, all of which ARE voting for him), by attneding the barbque then campaigning to teens in highschool who are influenced by the PRTU (that comes from personal expirience), of which less then 10% can actually vote.
So true, So true. I can’t believe how much teachers try to influence us politically. It’s not right.
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So true, So true. I can’t believe how much teachers try to influence us politically. It’s not right.[/quote]
How? By wearing a button? By telling you who they are voting for? How?
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That is the BIGGEST bullshit ever. I know for a fact that teacher union dues are well over $1000 dollars a year. Hardly a “$2 dollar” a month deal.
And not only that but their union is claiming to be non-partisan AND promised never to financially back a political party, yet the Prince Rupert Teachers Union is using their members dues to help fund Gary Coons NDP campaign.
I know SEVERAL teachers who are ROYALLY pissed about this and for this fact alone are voting Liberal (all of which voted NDP in the last election)[/quote]
ok so dues are over 1000 dollars a year… and what are the salaries? by the way who elects the union representitives? yea thats what i thought so if they dont like what their union is doing where do they go? oh right their union representitives. and if you dont like what the union decides then get new representitives.
[quote=“Guest”]Why blame Bill Belsey for not showing at the CHSS and PRSS schools to campaign. Less then 10% of the school population will be voting and besides he was preparing for the “Young Liberals” barbeque, which I attended.
I should add that he is showing his appreciation to us younger voters who are placing out trust in his hands, since alot of us will be voting for the first time.
IMO him showing up to show his appreciation to us (a good 30 young adults, all of which ARE voting for him), by attneding the barbque then campaigning to teens in highschool who are influenced by the PRTU (that comes from personal expirience), of which less then 10% can actually vote.[/quote]
Belsey knew about the debate in the schools and by not showing up to expose the liberal views, he basically told high school students that they are not important because they don’t vote. If the young liberals were already voting for him, they could have had their barbeque later that day ( by the way, the debates were in the morning at PRSS and at 2pm at CHSS- Long barbeque!)
False!
The idea of supporting Coons was tossed around and even approved by the PRDTU at a meeting but I’m pretty sure that the funds cannot be used to directly favor him. The funds can be used to tell people about the Campbell government bad record on education just like the ads you see on TV. You might say it’s the same thing but it isn’t. And how about big business’ support of the liberals? Rich people who have teams of accountants and lawyers to find every tax loopholes and who still want more tax breaks and keep wages as low as possible while reaping huge profits from the land’s resources.
Yet, these people, in the liberals’ mind are much better than teachers!
What kind of people are they to think that teachers are such bad people?
Sometimes I wonder what this world will look like in 30, 40, or 50 years if the neo-conservatism/economical growth at all cost trend continues. I wonder if it will look like the one depicted by Margaret Atwood in Oryx & Crake. Rich people living in heavily guarded corporate compounds. Others on the outside in the"plebelands". Out of control progress driven by greed.
The BC liberals are sure going in this direction!
[quote]False!
The idea of supporting Coons was tossed around and even approved by the PRDTU at a meeting but I’m pretty sure that the funds cannot be used to directly favor him. The funds can be used to tell people about the Campbell government bad record on education just like the ads you see on TV. You might say it’s the same thing but it isn’t.[/quote]
What!! It absolutely is the same thing! The fact remains that the PRTU promised NEVER to align themselves behind a political party, this is a promise the union pledged to its members when the union was formed, yet here they are fully throwing the entire unions support behind Gary Coons (when not every member of the union is in support of Coon or the NDP). Although there is a majority of teachers that are in support of the NDP, there is still a sizable minority that is not and is now pissed off because their union is advertising support for the NDP and making it appear as if the entire union is in support when this is not the case. How is that fair, basically what those ads are saying is that teachers are in support of the NDP and Gary Coons, when in fact not all of the union members are.
Not only that, the funds ARE being used to campaign for Coons. I have seen NUMEROUS ads in the Daily News which a spiel about voting for better education with a little check mark next to Gary Coons name underneath it, followed by a authroized by the PRTU. Tell me HOW this is not campaigning for the NDP when this union promised to remain non-partisan.
The fact that this union is using teachers union dues to run these ads (when not all teachers are in support) it toally unacceptable. Also teachers cannot work in BC unless they are part of the BCTF, which PRTU is associated. Therefore if you want to work in PR as a teacher you have to be a member of the PRTU otherwise you better look for another job.
Also the fact that buisness people are throwing their personal support behind the Liberals is TOTALLY different because NONE of these people are using union dues to do it. Buisness people are employed by themselves and are using the money they have made independently to fund advertising and to show support for the Liberals. Thats much different than a union using member fees when not all members are in support.
So every time I shop at a Liberal member’s shop, they’re using my money to support the Liberals? Fuck that, I’m shopping at Wal-Mart from now on. I’m not having my money be funneled into the BC Liberals.
I wonder what the 3rd Avenue business people will think of Belsey when the BC Liberals bring in Wal-Mart and Canadian Tire?
As for teachers being forced to be members of the BCTF, you can blame the SoCreds (ie: BC Liberals) for that. Don’t you see they need a common enemy, and teachers are an easy target. Everybody hates teafchers because everybody went to school. So let’s force them all to belong to a union, then we’ll vilify them!
The PRDTU is a democratic union, just like any other union. The great majorty of people support its actions. That’s how democracy works.
Man… sometimes it gets pretty confusing following all of these “Guests” who post…lol
This is why most forums make people register in order to post. Great discussion overall though.
Mike
I think it’s all the same person. All the exact same IP, anyway.
Is he like, arguing with himself?
Ok that only makes reading his posts more confusing… 
Mike
in tonights edition of the daily news (monday, may 16th) I read the article titled “Libs and teachers headed for court”. About halfway through the article I learned an interesting fact and I quote “The BCTF is spending $5 million on this election campaign - 25 percent more than a political party is allowed to spend”. That is OUTRAGEOUS and DISGUSTING. So what if the Liberal get there $4 million or some odd dollars from big business. WTF is the BCTF do spending that much money against the liberals and supporting the NDP!!! That means that NDP has $9 million in support of there campaign. So stop trying to use the big business argument against the libs when the NDP has got a BIG UNION with huge spending power.
not just them but also from other unions as well, I seen in a pamphlet in fridays paper the BCGEU was in full support and printed hundreds of thousand of these pamhlets… so sad…