Sure, I don’t think that was the issue. It was that there seemed to be a real, and measurable push to increase the revenue. And at least some of it was with “bogus” tickets. This included the use of undercover officers and the constant manning of the “Stop Sign Toll Booth.”
At a time when Prince Rupert was seeing a lot of different “crime waves,” the local Mounties seemed to be putting a heck of a lot of effort into catching people who stopped for 2 seconds at a stop sign instead of 5 seconds, for example.
The officer would say that you “didn’t stop for 5 seconds.” Most people didn’t question it, and I doubt anybody fought it.
We went over this a couple of times in 2008 The MVA states that you must use your signals when your turn will have an effect on traffic. A parked police car does not count as traffic. If there’s no traffic, you don’t need to signal, according to the MVA.
Again, the trick was to park a police car, usually hidden, and see if anybody signalled going through that yield sign. I’ll bet you can go there right now and watch traffic to see if anybody signals with traffic. I doubt they do, since there’s really only one thing you can do when you’re there – turn right. But anyway, it’s not an offence unless there is traffic.
Again, that wasn’t the problem. It was the bogus tickets.
I said in the other thread that the undercover stakeout of the stop sign was essentially a shake down. The drivers weren’t doing anything illegal. They were stopping, just not for 5 seconds. Every single one received a ticket.
That’s just not right.
If the man was speeding it was a good thing he was stopped. His situation likely impaired his driving ability and could have been a danger to himself and/or others by speeding to the hospital. I’ll leave that judgement call to the officer. You wouldn’t accept that defense if he ran over someone would you? [/quote]
Read the other thread. He wasn’t speeding. He failed to signal. I don’t know if it was a case of a bogus ticket or not (ie: was there traffic).
The detachment was so embarrassed by the guy that they publicly withdrew the ticket.
Mainly because they don’t know they’re bogus. The “5 second rule” being the prime example. In 2007-2008, that became the local meme – “better stop for 5 seconds or you’re going to get a ticket!”
The usual reaction was “oh, I didn’t realize the law said you had to wait 5 seconds.” And then you’d be reminded that you’d get a break on the fine if you paid it right away.
I should read the 2008 thread to get a better picture of what happened in the past and more details. At any rate many cities in BC and across Canada use Motor vehicle tickets to generate revenue. The trick is to obey the rules of the road. It is not hard to do. If you believe the ticket is bogus, fight it.[/quote]
Yes, I agree.
But I do have a problem when writing bogus tickets seems to become policy. Again, this was in the past, I have no idea about the present. There’s a thread on HTMF with the actual numbers.