Hello PRDN. Any ETA of an update on your website?
Please, please, please??
Yup, still a couple of days behind.
You guys want me to build you a site where the reporters could just post the stuff themselves without having to create individual pages for every story?
Mig makes wicked sites.
He fixed our site, when no one else could.
MIG TO THE RESCUE!!!
Nah, I suck at the web design, but it’s not too hard to set up pre-built stuff.
Some great templates here for WP:
I’m just glad it’s fixed and running now.
And very easy to use. I haven’t gotten a “what do I do now” question yet.
I’m not sure of the company’s stance but from my own viewpoint I think the stories need to be a couple days behind so there’s still value in subscribing, you get your news quicker. If you don’t subscribe you can read it for free later in the week.
Because newspapers rely on readership so there’s value for the advertisers to survive having a product that doesn’t get all the advertisers in doesn’t make much sense. Ultimately I’d like to see something where we .pdf the whole paper and people can download the whole paper ads and all. Then my advertisers get the eyeballs they pay for and readers can still get the paper in a timely digital fashion. We could count downloads and ad them to our numbers for the advertisers.
That’s just my two cents worth.
Cheers,
Chad
I agree with Chad.
The internet is why papers are dieing. You can get the same info, free, on the net, what’s the point of subscribing to the paper. It may not matter to you guys if the daily looses readership. but it sure does matter to me, and my family.
While I can understand a concern over “giving away” the news on the website on the same day as its printed, it would be rather short sighted to put in a delay of a few days.
Most newspapers across the world now have a web presence, many much more detailed than what the PRDN is offering. They would be better off using their on line presence to make the print edition something that people want to seek out on a daily basis.
Many news services consider the internet as a promotional tool for the print edition, some have charged a fee for view, (many however have since discontinued that practice)
The suggestion that the internet is the reason that papers are dying is far too simple an excuse for those papers that can’t compete anymore.
Whether by dumbing down their efforts, ignoring the real news in the quest for a positive spin or generally mis reading what their audience wants, the causes of their decline could be many.
The Internet has had an impact on the newspaper industry, from the creation of a variety of mainstream portals to those blogs and websites created by the folks that used to read that very print medium.
Simply put, newspapers are dying because they are no longer relevant to the audience that they are striving to reach. People now have many, many options to seek out what they want to know, if the papers can’t adapt they will die.
Provide a product that resonates with the public and you’ll probably find an audience whether they get their hands dirty reading an ink filled newspaper or whether they tempt the eyestrain Gods by seeking out their interests on the internet.
Delaying your online stories by a few days will only drive your potential online audience (ie: people like me who don’t want a physical paper) to your competition.
Ironic that you can get George & Monica’s stories on the Prince George paper’s website a couple of days before they appear on the daily news site. If they weren’t available there, then guess what? I’d just read the same stuff on The Northern View’s site. It’s incredibly naive to think that delaying a story online by a couple of days will cause people to subscribe to the newspaper. And honestly, it’s that kind of thinking that is killing newspapers.
Ask The Northern View why they not only post breaking stories immediately on their site but often link to it from here. Usually a long time before the printed story makes it to the paper.
The internet is killing the newspaper industry in a unique way – it is forcing newspaper people to be honest to their advertisers. I put an ad in the Daily News and you can tell me that 3000 people will read it, and charge me accordingly. I put an ad on The Northern View’s website (or on HTMF using Google Adwords), and I can not only tell how many people loaded the ad, but how many actually clicked on it.
The newspaper industry is also based on the model of information scarcity. ie: They controlled what information you consumed. Information was valuable because it was scarce. Supply and demand, I guess.
Well, we now live in a society where information is no longer scarce. It is over abundant. There is little value in raw information (unless it is timely and unavailable anywhere else). Supply and demand, I guess. 3-day old news is essentially worthless, especially if you can get breaking news elsewhere. If I were an advertiser, I’d want to have my ad near the breaking news, not in the 3-day old news.
If I were running the Daily News, I’d be posting news stories immediately (like they do on the Prince George site), and offering the print advertisers prime locations on the website. But hey, I’m not running the Daily News
Here you go, this is the news that will be on the Daily News website in 3 days’ time:
news.google.ca/news/search?q=%22prince+rupert%22
Create an RSS feed or google alert, and you can even have that delivered to your e-mail box daily. Free. And the Prince Rupert Daily News advertisers aren’t even given a chance to give the paper some money to advertise.
Trust me, the internet is going to kill the Daily News unless you embrace it, and start selling your superior online presence. Or you can just ignore the internet, post 3-day-old news and hope that your subscribers don’t figure out how to use google news.
Some interesting viewpoints. Its always good to see others ideas.
Our website with advertising should be getting released in October (although I did hear that three years ago) So I will be able to sell advertising on it, which will be nice. Everyone should be able to get their news right away. The site will be very similar to Prince George’s. The company has been rolling them out one at a time community by community.
So I see on the PRDN website that they now will only be posting their stories two days after they have appeared in print.
Not sure it’s the way I would have gone if I were trying to build an online presence, bad enough the news is sometimes a day or two old by the time they print it, but with a two day delay to take that news online (making news delivery now three or four days behind the curve) would that not almost make the website rather irrelevant?
Comments, suggestions??
It makes me wonder who is in charge of this mess!
First they took a good newspaper and completely ruined it, and then they build a web site featuring stale stories that nobody will bother looking at.
Why bother any more?
For me a news site must be current. Just my 2 cents worth.
Please CLEAN UP and organize the darn classifieds… I get dizzy trying to read them and eventually just give up. Was looking for the Garage Sale cut-out that used
to be there. Maybe it still is but since we don’t have that many adverts on a good day, why must the headers all be in bold print.? You lose the ad itself in all the blackness
Please ,for the sake of my old eyes, go back to the way it used to be !!!
I have been following threads on here for some time now and have never posted. And since this Daily Snooze seems to grab a lot of people’s attention I thought I might post on here about this.
I read Friday’s paper. It was delivered to my house for free, like many Community newspapers are. I thumbed through it, read a couple of stories I liked and then walked away from it, never thinking much about the contents the rest of the evening.
What struck me was that I actually like the newspaper. I enjoy some of the material, and the fact that they have some stories with more depth than the other one.
While the Wednesday rag is fine, it seems to not stimulate much discussion on here, which points to me that either it sucks chuncks, or it is so stunning that it is above commenting on.
The snooze does need to fix its classifieds. I hate them the way they are now. I have been to the office to complain and that bald guy at the front desk told me some excuse about the whole chain doing it and its a system… blah, blah, blah. Their system stinks.
Long time listener, first time sockpuppet.