Kitkatla taking the City to court over Watson Island sale

Kitkatla band has nothing to do with the Pacific Inn, but they have apparently purchased a 50% stake in the Coast Prince Rupert Hotel. I guess there ain’t no gold in them casino mines, at least not in Rupert.

this area belongs to the first nation people you have to respect there writes and
if you look closely if it wasnt for the first nations our town would be dead the all
native brings in millions every year lets try to show some respect.

[quote=“ajaye46”]this area belongs to the first nation people you have to respect there writes and
if you look closely if it wasnt for the first nations our town would be dead the all
native brings in millions every year lets try to show some respect.[/quote]

Explains alot, doesn’t it. Yes it does.

Now that is a great shot of Shithead Palin .

[quote=“ajaye46”]this area belongs to the first nation people you have to respect there writes and
if you look closely if it wasnt for the first nations our town would be dead the all
native brings in millions every year lets try to show some respect.[/quote]

Ajaye, I thought you know the difference between “there writes” and “their rights?” hmmm sorry but when I know someone has been here for sometime, I thought perhaps they know the difference between “there and their” and “write and right?”

As for your point about the First Nations, yes I agree that the money the First Nations do receive stays in the community vs international investments like some. However, the land and water between the First Nations is historical and each community does know the history, it is when treaty and who are the hosts of the land, does create more problems. There are historical maps that are in Ottawa and so I am unsure why all levels of government are not talking to all the stake holders and sorting this land and water so all people would know.

Historically, this land here all the way up to the Zymacord River is Lax Kw’alaams and Metlakatla (Metlakatla is part of the tribal system of Lax Kw’alaams - 9 Allied Tribes; the Tsimshian nation is of 14 tribes (9 of which is Lax Kw’alaams).

[quote=“Bettyboop86”]

[quote=“ajaye46”]this area belongs to the first nation people you have to respect there writes and
if you look closely if it wasnt for the first nations our town would be dead the all
native brings in millions every year lets try to show some respect.[/quote]

Ajaye, I thought you know the difference between “there writes” and “their rights?” hmmm sorry but when I know someone has been here for sometime, I thought perhaps they know the difference between “there and their” and “write and right?”

As for your point about the First Nations, yes I agree that the money the First Nations do receive stays in the community vs international investments like some. However, the land and water between the First Nations is historical and each community does know the history, it is when treaty and who are the hosts of the land, does create more problems. There are historical maps that are in Ottawa and so I am unsure why all levels of government are not talking to all the stake holders and sorting this land and water so all people would know.

Historically, this land here all the way up to the Zymacord River is Lax Kw’alaams and Metlakatla (Metlakatla is part of the tribal system of Lax Kw’alaams - 9 Allied Tribes; the Tsimshian nation is of 14 tribes (9 of which is Lax Kw’alaams).[/quote]

Regarding grammar, give him a break. We all know Ajaye ( at least on this forum ). Anyone care to take a stab at Bettyboop86’s grammar?

Sorry, I felt a need to stick up for the underdog.

ok sorry shoot me.

No, we can throw you in to that new prison you’re dreaming of… with Herb Pond… in the same cell… ???]…

Dude…sorry, can’t do that as you provide much comic relief here on HTMF. Heh-heh :smile:

[quote=“Bettyboop86”]
… However, the land and water between the First Nations is historical and each community does know the history, it is when treaty and who are the hosts of the land, does create more problems. There are historical maps that are in Ottawa and so I am unsure why all levels of government are not talking to all the stake holders and sorting this land and water so all people would know.[/quote]

A bit hard to follow there in places, but really it is the first nations, not the federal and provincial levels of government, and certainly not the city of Prince Rupert, that should be explaining to the public the basis for the claims that are being made.

So many of these issues that many fear are scaring away potential investment seem to be about assertions of rights, as if somehow everyone else is just supposed to take at face value what’s shown on some maps that have been sent to Ottawa. Really the onus is on the first nations, in this case Kitkatla, to submit evidence to prove their assertions. That is pretty much what the courts have been saying in previous cases and it only makes sense.

As for Watson Island, and the same could be said for the Port, what traditional activities are there, that are protected by aborignal rights, that development could potentially interfere with? Fishing, gathering food? What exactly? And if there are no traditional activities being practiced, what exactly are the aboriginal rights that are being asserted supposed to protect?

[quote=“BTravenn”]

[quote=“Bettyboop86”]
… However, the land and water between the First Nations is historical and each community does know the history, it is when treaty and who are the hosts of the land, does create more problems. There are historical maps that are in Ottawa and so I am unsure why all levels of government are not talking to all the stake holders and sorting this land and water so all people would know.[/quote]

A bit hard to follow there in places, but really it is the first nations, not the federal and provincial levels of government, and certainly not the city of Prince Rupert, that should be explaining to the public the basis for the claims that are being made.

So many of these issues that many fear are scaring away potential investment seem to be about assertions of rights, as if somehow everyone else is just supposed to take at face value what’s shown on some maps that have been sent to Ottawa. Really the onus is on the first nations, in this case Kitkatla, to submit evidence to prove their assertions. That is pretty much what the courts have been saying in previous cases and it only makes sense.

As for Watson Island, and the same could be said for the Port, what traditional activities are there, that are protected by aborignal rights, that development could potentially interfere with? Fishing, gathering food? What exactly? And if there are no traditional activities being practiced, what exactly are the aboriginal rights that are being asserted supposed to protect?[/quote]

Their right to extortionist tactics for financial gain?