We’re going to the polls here in BC on October 19, 2024. I’m thinking Tamara will be our newly elected MLA on the North Coast. I predict that Eby will defeat the Cons.
Who do you predict will win?
So are they really “conservatives” or are they the weirdos?
Former Prince George-Mackenzie candidate Rachael Weber — whose social media content about the “5G Genocide” and the “anti christ” had drawn criticism from BC United — confirmed in a Facebook post that she had been removed as a candidate in what she called “a matter of deep sadness for me.”
“I believe this Conservative Party of BC is no longer Conservative but running under the guise of the name Conservative. They have allowed many BC United (Liberal) candidates to infiltrate the party and have lost sight of the real Conservative values we as Conservatives hold dear,” Weber wrote on Monday.
Or is the Conservative Party trying to get rid of the weirdos that were previously part of BC United?
They’re definitely a bunch of weirdos. I listened to a Liberal MLA from the interior on CBC who was pissed as he just purchased $9000 worth of Liberal signs that are now useless. Haha
100% agree with your predictions
Rustad is a bit too radical for BC, especally after what he said about first nations during his recent interview with Jordan Peterson.
No shit Sherlock… and with his home riding including so many Indigenous voters I hope they get out en masse and cost him his seat. Glad to assist in that.
Weird is the word, just returned to the Fort from down south, through the mass of smoke from Quesnel on that climate change didn’t aid. After filling my tank for 28 cents a litre less than here with gas refined in the USA.
And hearing him on the radio say wind and solar ar no good and he wants to go small nuclear reacotrs. Which no one has ever even built one yet. Saw 0 wind turbines in 2000km of driving when I can cruise through Southern Alberta and see 2000 windmills in 0 miles of driving…
and won’t forget going out for dinner in his hometown Jesusland and being scowled at by customers and servers for walking in wearing masks like was the law at the time.
I could hold my nose at a BC United/Liberal win but going back to worsf of Socreds… no thanks
Honestly, take a cruise thru Vanderhoof, past the closing Plateau Mill and the empty logyard at L&M, the decades shuttered buildings and the 10-12¢ pricier gas than Vancouver with 20¢ included Transit Tax.
Ask yourself is this a good vision for all of BC?
So here’s part of a post from Reddit on BC Cons and weird:
Mike Harris, the BC Conservative candidate for Langford, claims it is possible to “kill” COVID-19 simply by “blowing a hair dryer up one’s nose.”
Sheldon Clare, the BC Conservative candidate for Prince George–North Cariboo, says Canada is like 1933 Germany and that he is “willing to commit insurrection.”
Jordan Kealy, the BC Conservative candidate in Peace River North, claims there is a “government plan to eat bugs” and “control the weather.”
Bryan Tepper, the BC Conservative Surrey–White Rock candidate, has promoted the idea that the storming of the Capitol building in the US didn’t happen
.John Koury, the BC Conservative candidate for the Cowichan Valley, claims that Donald Trump actually won the last US election
.Harman Bhangu, the BC Conservative for Langley-Abbotsford, argues that the storming of the Capitol was done by “Antifa” dressed up as Trump supporters. He criticized the Vancouver Canucks who wore pride-themed practice jerseys saying “There is nothing to be proud of.”
Kristina Loewen, the BC Conservative for Kelowna Centre, promotes far right conspiracy theories against a “UN world order.”
Chris Sankey, the BC Conservative candidate for North Coast–Haida Gwaii, claims that efforts to combat climate change are a “depopulation conspiracy.”
Paul Ratchford, the BC Conservative candidate for Vancouver-Point Grey, supports calls for the arrest of Bonnie Henry. He says “Violent anti-social trans extremists increasingly define the [Pride] movement.” He has called for defunding the CBC. He has called for defunding the University of BC because it hired a professor specializing in race and ethics.
Bryan Breguet, the BC Conservative candidate in Vancouver–Langara, attacks mothers who do not breastfeed by saying “You f–king decided to have a baby! Act as a f–king mother! Jesus Chris, get your priorities right.”
Rosalyn Bird, the BC Conservative candidate in Prince George-Valemount, promotes the idea that Pride supporters as “groomers” and that the government wants to “castrate kids.”
Tim Thielmann, BC Conservative candidate in Victoria–Beacon Hill, said it was “Gross” that people objected to a white supremacist daycare that advertised itself as a “whites-only” space for “proud parents of European children” looking to “escape forced diversity.”
Speaking of weird … our Premier here in Alberta suggested that the US Department of Defence is spraying Chemtrails over Alberta. Because she investigated all possible sources inside Alberta and couldn’t find any evidence.
Yeah, our Conservative lunatic candidate here on the North Coast is a winner.
Early voting in Prince Rupert runs from October 10-13. Early voting place is the Prince Rupert Library, 101 6th Ave. East. 8:00 AM- 8:00 PM.
Final voting place is the Civic Center on October 19th. 8:00 AM- 8:00 PM.
That’s what I mean when I say weird. The new populist pseaudo-conservatives seem to be rounding up the votes of every flake and nut job like chemtrail, fake moon landing, flat earthers, anti-environment people and believers in old JW medical concepts.
They seem to need the people who don’t belong in 2024.
1953 DeSoto good, Tesla bad people.
I voted last night from Iraq. No excuses, get er done.
Are you being sarcastic? The wording is a little off for me if you are.
I’m not sure where “down south” was specifically, but there has been a steady decline in the cost of fuel over the last few months, specifically in the lower half of the province as the TMPL expansion has been operational - allowing higher volumes of refined fuels from AB to be sold to British Columbians. The refined in the USA thing is what was making the fuel expensive, not cheaper. We can now send MORE refined product than we could before, due to the required amount of crude to be sent to the US to refine occupying space in the previously single pipeline. Crude and refined fuel now have their own dedicated lines.
On the wind argument, BC isn’t a great candidate for wind power. We’re not “windy” like Southern Alberta is, nor do we need wind generated power. Hydro generation in BC makes up ~91% of what customers are consuming. What’s the argument to push for more wind in BC? We’re 98% “renewables” currently, what is there to gain by adding more, expensive infrastructure that’s will only operate part time?
Wind is a good solution for Southern Alberta, because they have a lot of it, and it’s an easy place to install turbines. They’ve already got the highway and road infrastructure to put these things up pretty well anywhere they want and they have a reason to do it - which we do not.
By contrast, Alberta running ~85% on natural gas and coal, with only 3% of there electricity coming from hydro. It makes a lot more sense to put wind turbines up in Alberta, than it does in BC, period.
-edit- just like EVs don’t make much sense in a lot of places due to the parent fuel sources for electrical generation in that region, as well as the cost of electricity.
BC is a great place for an EV if you can charge it at home and not use a pay for Supercharging. I follow some Tesla FB pages from AB and have seen reported kWh rates as high as $0.80, vs ~$0.085 to charge at your home in BC during off-peak hours. That’s a massive difference in price, and ~22% of those EVs are running on coal. I ran the math on that roughly a year ago, and my F-450 was less expensive to drive than a Model 3 charging at those rates - make that make sense.
I would buy one, but I have nowhere to run a cable to charge a car where it wouldn’t cross a sidewalk or get stolen. Kind of the same problem people in condos and apartments currently have.
I’m seeing a lot of blue signs for the Cons here in Prince Rupert. I suspect Tamara will do well on Haida Gwaii. Provincial elections in Rupert are not won on Kaien Island; it’s usually the candidate that carries the outer communities. So there’s still hope. I don’t want to be represented by a anti-vaxxer.
With all the stupid crap Chris Sankey said on Twitter and on other social media platforms, you gotta be absolutely stupid to vote that guy in.
There will be many “leopards ate my face” comments if Rustad and his weirdos win the election, which btw is a very possibility.
The wording itself is weird. “Indigenous” “Inuit” “Metis” but then uses the word “reservation.” Maybe taking too many American talking points?
Is this a legit screenshot? I went through his X posts and didn’t see anything like this on there. I also used google lens to reverse search this screenshot and it had no hits. There also isn’t any other posts that I came across that use language like this on his profile. I might not be looking hard enough, or it’s entirely possible posts like this are deleted.
-EDIT- Disregard, I found it and it’s still up.
This is a response to that post, from someone who has “Conservative. Christian. AntiWoke” as their profile description.
“I thought you were indigenous because of heritage, not because of where you live.”
This might be a great example that while many conservatives might have conflicting views with the left, they still have common sense. This man appears to be arguing, that it doesn’t matter where these people live when it comes to ancestry related benefits, which I would agree with myself.
I certainly lean right, but my views on religion and moral values may conflict with Michael’s, and it’s unlikely either of us would care about it.
This thread pushed me to Google for the current policies being pushed by the three parties. CBC seems to have a good summary that I’ll link below. As I read through this, I’m going to leave my thoughts and see which party I actually feel I align with.
My biggest focus is likely going to be on which party is most likely to solve the homelessness, open drug use and the subsequent theft, vandalism and degradation of personal safety in Canada?
Who’s most likely to round up the offending criminals and filter them through rehabilitation programs to separate those who can reintegrate into society and those who can’t? Who’s going to put those who can’t into institutions or prisons so we can move on and focus on budgeting for health care and education for the rest of society?
I’m tired of my kids finding used needles an crack pipes near or house, downtown, or anywhere for that matter. I’m tired of having my vehicle windows broken and people walking through my yard looking for an opportunity to steal my property. I’m tired of being threatened walking around downtown, or needing to step over human feces at the entrances to local businesses. I’m tired on not being able to do anything about it, and I’m tired of the RCMP and Crown not being able to do anything about it.
Oddly enough it might be the weird anti-vaxxers and believers of the old JW medical concepts that are more likely to take action on this problem rather than throwing tax payer’s money at programs or feel-good solutions that have accomplished nothing at all.
Anyway, here are my interpretations of what the parties figure are pressing issues as I read though them.
Economy
Conservatives say they plan to reduce red-tape for industry project approvals, expand mining, create policy to ensure all parts of cut trees are used to reduce waste, expand support for farmers and bring in private insurance companies to compete with ICBC. All of these points in some way benefit the economy which raises funding for dealing with problems like the above.
NDP promising a $1000 household tax reduction, improving highways in NW BC, and increasing incentives for the film industry? So the NDP are planning on spending more money while recovering less taxes?
The Greens want to increase taxes on incomes over 350k, reduce "fossil fuel infrastructure, and the Prince Rupert Gas Transmission pipeline and invest in renewables. Do they not understand how much revenue comes from the oil and gas sector, or that BC Hydro already provides electricity from 98% renewable sources (91% of which is hydro)?
What kind of fake platforms are these, and how are they going to fund a drug and homeless resolution campaign?
Education and Child Care
Conservatives plan to incentivize private businesses to create daycare spaces throughout the province. Seems like they’re trying to enable more parents to work, who are otherwise unable to.
NDP somehow plan to afford to build 20,000 new student spaces and incentivize teachers to high-need areas. Again, more spending with no new revenue and tax cuts. How do they plan to pay for this?
Greens plan to set aside $100M annually to fund laptops for high school students, and spend $250M on childcare spaces and another $100M on school renovations. That’s a half-billion in spending while planning on cutting out the hands that feed them and cutting potential supply of natural gas to countries currently burning coal and oil. That’s not “green”. The entirety of Canada makes of a very small percentage of the global CO2 emissions. Our natural gas exports will make more of a difference overseas than if Canada ceased to exist tomorrow. Why does this party pretend we need more renewables and less oil and gas industry in this province? I swear they must be funded by the US governments and natural resource industries.
Environment and Climate Change
Conservatives plan to end carbon tax and the low carbon fuel emissions standard. Love it or hate it, carbon tax is $17.61/L on your gasoline bill. There’s a complaint in here about 10-12 cents a liter, surely $17.61 cents is worth talking about. They also want to discuss nuclear, which is honestly a very sensible idea. If we want to reduce our carbon emissions and feel hydroelectric isn’t sustainable, or is too damaging to the environment, nuclear is the ONLY alternative - and Canada has an ENOURMOUS supply of Uranium.
NDP also says they’ll scrap the carbon tax - it seems both sides of the fence here agree it has accomplished nothing other than increased consumer debt. They’ll also double the amount of EV charging stations across the province by 2030, which I don’t think is going to help with EV adoption unless that electricity is being sold near BC Hydro rates - which isn’t sustainable.
Greens want to keep the carbon tax, increasing it for companies with the highest emissions and increase rebates. They effectively want to ban fracking (I honestly wonder if they even know what it is), new pipelines and end gas production. In the long-term, this party is effectively planning to force all British Columbians into more expensive electricity to heat their homes and drive their cars with. They want to build more renewable energy projects to meet the significant increase in electricity demand they plan to create. This will inevitably increase the cost of electricity substantially to everyone. Look at Europe if you want to see how this is going to pan out.
Health Care
Conservatives want to reduce administration costs and focus on spending money on frontline staff. They want to allow for both public and private health care options and allow patients waiting for service in BC to use out of province clinics to get faster treatment.
NDP want allow pharmacists to prescribe medication and expand the range of services physician assistants can provide while building more Primary Care Centres.
Greens will increase funding for nurses and replace urgent and primary care centers with a community health center in all 93 ridings.
Lets do all three, but we’ll need to keep those hydrocarbons to pay, heat and build those community health centers…
Housing
Conservatives have some exemption I would need to research more to understand. Allegedly $1500/month rebate plan for mortgages and rentals. They also want to allow multi-unit housing in single-family home neighborhoods while incentivizing rental construction and promising not to bring in low-barrier housing or shelters in communities that don’t want them.
NDP plans to spend $1.29B to fund up to 40% of home purchases for “middle-income” families and build 300,000 middle-class homes, while reducing red-tape preventing smaller, multi-unit developments and to use public land to build more homes.
Greens will build 26,000 affordable rental units per year and utilize public land for non-profit housing and purchase more land for $1.5B in housing spending. They also promise vacancy control so landlords cannot increase rent between tenants. They’ll also increase tax rates on homes valued over $3M.
The Greens propose some senseless overreach. NDP and Conservatives have ambitious plans. More land DOES need to be freed up to accomplish any kind of affordable projects.
Indigenous relationships and reconciliation
Conservatives plan to return lands to First Nations, including 20% of BC forests and supporting FN to be economically independent.
NDP will build more housing housing.
Greens will recognize all Indigenous governments and provide them with funding comparable to other levels of government and allow Indigenous names to be used on government ID.
MENTAL HEALTH AND ADDICTION
Conservatives will bring in laws allowing for involuntary care for severe addiction disorders. End the decriminalization program.
NDP Fund $50M to mental health. Build a treatment center for construction workers? Presumably stay on track with reversing their decriminalization program.
Greens expand the prescribed safer supply program, allow for supervised consumptions spaces in hospitals, review Mental Health Act.
I feel the Conservatives are on the right track here. The NDP caused too much harm and they’ll be working to undo their own damage for their entire term. We need laws allowing for involuntary care, institutionalization and reintegration for those that are capable. The Greens wish to enable the problem to continue, using public health facilities as a place to do it.
PUBLIC SAFETY
Conservatives will increase funding to the police, and look at harsher penalties for gang-related crimes and violence. Reform measures to deal with repeat offenders and people convicted of violent crimes.
NDP it isn’t clear to me, but it sounds like they want more a lower success of bail and higher rate of sentencing if I was to guess. “Push Ottawa on strengthening bail and sentencing conditions”. I can’t believe I’m reading this, but they want to to increase fines for people speeding in cars that are valued over $150,000 and dedicate a highway patrol to reduce policing costs, rather than to ensure there is adequate policing of crimes… and more red light cameras, as if that’s a problem we have.
Greens only proposal is to create a taskforce to investigate missing and murdered Indigenous woman, girls and two-spirited people.
My take on the majority of these points is that the NDP and Conservatives are actually considering useful policy to correct the largest issues we face in BC. The Greens are offering nothing worth a vote, promising a higher cost of living for everyone over time, promising a higher cost of living to those who already pay the highest taxes and continuing with enabling the addicted to use drugs. How to destroy your province in one easy step would be voting Green from what I can see here.
For me, even if they’re crazy, weird, have religious and social beliefs that are not inline with mine, the Conservatives plan to create industry and business which is how all of other promises from other parties are funded. They plan to take action by forcing people away from drugs and hopefully bringing back institutions to house those that can’t integrate with society.
I feel personal opinions about candidates get in the way of the grand picture. We don’t have an environmental problem in BC that we can change, even if we didn’t exist tomorrow. It isn’t sensible to stunt our economy in order to fix a problem that doesn’t exist as the Greens propose to do.
We need cashflow to fix the homeless and drug use problems. We need cashflow to transition off of hydrocarbons. The NDP and Greens are simply promising to reduce their revenue while increasing services. It doesn’t work like that, does it?
I personally feel all of these parties are completely incompetent in one way or another but I’m failing to see how the Greens are even a relevant party after reading through this. They’re offering nothing of any substance or value. There needs to be a joint effort of policy from both the NDP and Conservatives to run the province in a productive and sensible manner rather than worrying about who they’re going to offend and what they’re going to say to persuade someone to vote.
We still need hydrocarbon based energy, period. It isn’t a disputable topic. Blocking pipelines, permitting and investment into that sector will put strain on an already aging infrastructure, reduce efficiency and overall pollution and increase the cost of the products.
We DO need more classrooms and more doctors but there needs to be an income source to pay for those services and an occasional red-light ticket and discriminating against those with higher income isn’t going to achieve it. BC is natural resource rich, that’s the way to pay for it in the short-term. Increasing taxes on doctors isn’t going to make them want to live here. My circle of friends are mainly doctors, surgeons, and specialized health professionals and those who moved here from other countries are not exactly thrilled with the cost of living, the amount of theft, crime, drug use, and they’ve been leaving BC because of it. Increasing taxes on them isn’t going to assist in retaining them.
The fact that SOGI 123 and plastic bags, red light cameras and a plan to discriminate against drivers of expensive cars are even talking points in an election is pathetic. Lets focus on solving actual problems.
Congrats if you made it thought this 
How do British Columbia’s three main parties compare on these election issues?