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I run 8 computers all windows xp machines I love them I have np with them except for spyware but Im not affrade to go into the registry to fix them. I aslo do a reformat once a year.
I have never tryed OSX but I do like how looks I might use it for something but I think it would end up being a 40 pound paper wieght…lol… as I like to play games and like to upgrade video cards and other components…

So it comes down to this if you like OSX or you like XP, good for you. You have a choice of what you want and need and what you are preferences are.

I like Windows and when Longhorne is out I will updat to that OS, regardless if it is a copy of OSX, but there is alot of stuff going into longhorn that OSX does not do right now, but im sure in the future will be very much the same…

I run 8 computers all windows xp machines I love them I have np with them except for spyware but Im not affrade to go into the registry to fix them. I aslo do a reformat once a year.
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add up your time, my time is worth 100 dollars an hour sorry i dont have the kinda time to waste doing that if its configured right you wont have that problem. **

I have never tryed OSX but I do like how looks I might use it for something but I think it would end up being a 40 pound paper wieght…lol… as I like to play games and like to upgrade video cards and other components…

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so you enjoy taking computers apart and putting new parts in? if thats what you enjoy then upgrading to the next version of windows will be great for you.
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So it comes down to this if you like OSX or you like XP, good for you. You have a choice of what you want and need and what you are preferences are.

I like Windows and when Longhorne is out I will updat to that OS, regardless if it is a copy of OSX, but there is alot of stuff going into longhorn that OSX does not do right now, but im sure in the future will be very much the same…

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what are these new features? multiple desktops? :unamused: theres some innovation.
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ps

thin clients are the way to go… not for gaming of course

Fedora Core of course is the latest “red hat” and it has some very nice features. You can customize it to be as big or as little as possible, and the nice part about it is that you can run it on PC or mac machine.

LMAO
My time …lol… I do it couse I love to do it. your time worth $100.00 an hr lol you some kind of High class hooker… lol,
computers change in a blink of an eye, I know when longhorn comes out I will need different parts, man … U dont think I didnt know that… thats what makes it fun…

damn you funny… :laughing:

Keep in mind that when im bashing macs, im not bashing OSX. I think OSX is an awsome operating system. Just because you have a PC, doesnt mean its a windows machine. Windows sucks, i think my of us can relate to that. But as of the now, PC have the upper hand in the hardware department.

FX-55 would eat a G5 for lunch :laughing:

FX-55 would eat a G5 for lunch um, I doubt this. Have you seen the new G5 Stuff ?

well just to be fair, I bought xp media edtion 2005, I like it but I’m now building a Myth Tv box using Linux…couse its Open Source software…
and seems stable but drivers I think will be a pain… as long as I plan ahead I should be fine…

What most people fail to realize is that they treat their PC like an appliance; like a toasteroven. If it’s broken, it must be a cheap quick fix… right? Well, toasterovens are around $50, computers around $1200. I’ve seen clients with brand new P4 3GHz+ boxes ready to replace them because they’re clogged with spyware.

I mean, it can’t be because they “accidentally” click on “yes” when surfing pr0n sites and see a “Download software” window, right?

It can’t be because they close their antivirus because it blocks that Kornikova screensaver their Aunt Beth forwarded them with the subject line “Youll leik thiS!”

It can’t be because they didn’t know that blowing a pack of cigarettes into the intake baffles every day would be bad for the interior componants, right?

It all boils down to how a computer is treated. The Windows admins and geeks never have their boxes crash because they know what they’re doing.

PC or Mac, it’s complex. I think Macs are just designed to take more abuse from the user at the cost of leaving the user out of a lot of things. PCs are designed to run everything, get parts from ATi or Zellers, and make the common person happy. Yes they can change their cursors to pink bunnies, but they can also delete their IDE drivers.

Personally, I’ve never seen a properly maintained, properly secured, configured and run Windows machine crash either unrecoverably, or requiring anything other than a quick fix. My Win 2K/2K3 servers stay up until I reboot them for log changes, or upgrade them.

“The more they overtake the plumbing… the easier it is to stop up the drain.”

good pont there goodbytes… I think to that most spyware and virus’s are built for windows couse windows is so prevelent, Im sure its just as easy to write viruses for Linux or Mac’s but why only a few people would get them as there’s not the same amount of people who use them…

[quote=“Astrothug”]well just to be fair, I bought xp media edtion 2005, I like it but I’m now building a Myth Tv box using Linux…couse its Open Source software…
and seems stable but drivers I think will be a pain… as long as I plan ahead I should be fine…[/quote]

MythTV is awsome. I get really bitchy if I have watch anything live these days. The drivers (ivyTv) are pretty stable now. Myth is the only reason I know anything about Fedora.

Exactly. Why write stuff for a small percentage of the user base? That’s like writing a worm that takes advantage of an O/S version of Trillian Basic. Ooohh… all 3 people who use that are hosed!

There has always been a direct reaction to popular software and viruses / hacks for it. I mean, until IM took off nobody really paid attention to MSN, AIM or YIM. And now we have MSN specific stuff. Hooray!

And there is stuff out there for Mac, Linux, Unix… even Bluetooth. Just not a lot yet. If Mac had a bigger share of the market, I’m sure they’d get a bigger share of the problematic pie.

that is partly true but partly bullshit. Spyware is more easily written for windows because generally its configured in a single user environment running as administrator with full rights to the entire system. If you were to run as a “guest” account while browsing your crack/porn sites i guarantee you wouldnt have any severe problems or even need to run adaware.

Laugh at me all you want if you want me to configure/design/implement your network thats $100 an hour. Im sure you do know all the parts you are going to have to replace , but really when you are doing real work upgrading hardware all the time is a pain in the ass and extra work you shouldnt need to do just to get the new bubbly gui for windows.

I am sure my clients would rather me spending my time improving their systems than upgrading all their hardware to support longhorn so they can do their word processing/accounting.

but if thats what you enjoy doing with your free time good for you I’d rather be out fishing.

You’re right, jesus.

Unixes (such as Linux, the BSDs and Mac OS X), won’t let you damage the system without being root.

On Windows, just visiting the wrong site will damage your system. That’s shitty. A person buys a Dell, brings it home, plugs it into the internet, does nothing wrong, and in a week, the computer doesn’t work anymore. Why do people tolerate and even defend that?

You shouldn’t have to be a genius to keep your computer working. You know what I’m talking about because we’ve all done the Windows support thing. All these seemingly intelligent people who have hosed their computers. But they’ve done nothing wrong, they’ve just used Windows like it was meant to be used.

Your average user can’t hose a unix system, because it won’t let them.

That “Mac OS X” virus that was supposedly going around was a perfect example: it would ask you for permission to install, and then if you didn’t have the root user enabled, it wouldn’t work.

I can just see it now… oh man that cracks me up. So at least we all agree that Windows does suck, but not the machines it runs on.

:unamused: you just dont get it. Windows sucks when its not properly configured meaning the default configuration of windows sucks! windows properly configured for its application is good.

Windows for word processing/browsing/gaming is good if its locked down.

I use linux not because its better than windows but because its better than windows for my application. I work with alot of linux servers/firewalls so i need alot of SSH terminals open and windows just gets too cluttered and confusing. My desktop is setup with hotkeys to load different ssh terminals etc. I just get more work done and faster and get to go home earlier.

This is not to say I do not use windows I do and in fact I am right now and guess what its working perfectly and it works great for my girlfriend who does alot of word processing. I am not working right now therefore windows works perfect for what i am doing.

For each job there is a tool, some suck for that job and rock for others, thats what you need to learn. I used to say windows sucks all the time too but for some applications it doenst suck for example MSSQL on a windows server rocks as a dbms.

Windows doesn’t really suck. Users and commercialism suck. I can’t comprehend why people who can barely read an Archie comic think they should be able to use a computer.
The same guy that tosses all his junk mail on the Post Office floor ompulsively clicks on every pop-up and responds to every e-mail in the most retarded manner.
Shit I just put up with a guy who came in four times to tell me and my tech how stupid we were because his Works program installs with the Windows code even though we practically shoved his face into the monitor pointing out that Works has two input fields of differnet lengths and Windows has five the same. And he was a retired teacher.

When all is said and done, we must remember that we are only talking about computers.

ONLY COMPUTERS?!?!?!?! what the BEEP is wrong with you man! :laughing: I need to get a life!

Let googlewar settle the argument:

http://www.googlewar.com/search.cfm?q1=Windows+sucks&q2=Mac+sucks

http://www.googlewar.com/search.cfm?q1=Windows+rules&q2=Mac+rules

http://www.googlewar.com/search.cfm?q1=Windows+rocks&q2=Mac+rocks