yes Tony did punch someone a few years ago and settled out of court so no record of it but everyone is allowed to be stupid sometimes
as for the beer gardens the ppl at the table with him have said the bouncer was in the wrong instead of asking them to take him home he was openly rude to Tony who was passed out at the table, Bouncers in BC have to use the least physical means possible to remove agitators if they are passed out then they have to ask ppl at the table to take him home, apparently that bouncer didn’t and now he is hoping for a huge payday
Now it is up to the court to see if reasonable force was used or excessive force was used since Tony won’t settle out of court
As far as I know that bouncer was a volunteer from the Rugby Club so I’m not exactly sure if there is a requirement for him to know use of force regualtions if they exist as you suggest. Besides, how much force would be necessary when someone is biting and kicking you?
He was drunk–lots of people do stupid stuff when they’re drunk and never are charged. Let’s not make light of the situation, but painting him as some sort of pathological violence monger, like some in this thread try to do, is quite a stretch.
I agree! We are all human and make stupid mistakes. I question what message it sends to re-elect someone who has done such a thing while in office. I’m afraid that if we ignore it and let it go while re-electing him that it sends a message that this kind of conduct is acceptable. I think that would be a mistake.
Also, you say he was drunk. I’ve never really known being drunk as an excuse for questionable conduct. If he ran over a kid while drunk driving would you say,
That being said, I am still considering voting for Tony. He does have alot to offer and I think that some experience on the next council is necessary.
Well if you were there!!!, you would know that he forced his way into the beer gardens( Do you know who I am???..) and was asked to leave…and didn’t…Mike from the Lions club put in 20 mins at the table trying to get him to leave,Not passed out,and engaged in convesation…with Nobody from the table offering to help/take him home,as they asked for him to be removed and then He was escorted out just like everyone else, accept he was kicking and screaming…Yes!! people do stupid things when they drink,and yes they have gotten away with no charges,but they are the one’s who went home,…not acting out like a spoiled child…But this isn’t the reason why I’m not voting for tony,It’s because he voted “yes” on his sisters land deal at the anchor,where he should have passed on it! It was a good deal for everone involved and would have passed 6-0-1 but he voted anyway and that just left it a dirty deal…And for the Excessive force the Police used more trying to get him in the Car ,then I did kicking him out…and I would have been charged by now…but that could take another 2-3 years…lol as this is going to be over 2 1/2 as is!
That’s like comparing someone who steals a chocolate bar to someone who breaks into a home and beats up the old man inside, then steals his money. Obviously I would react differently if he seriously injured someone because he was driving a vehicle while drunk—but that’s not the crime he’s charged with.
It’s up to the voters, as always. For me, he has yet to be convicted of a crime. In our system it’s innocent until proven guilty. Lots of people at HTMF frequently forget that, but I don’t. Even if he is found guilty, if he isn’t sentenced to jail time I don’t see how an assault conviction affects his ability to be an alderman. He has an impressive resume of service to the community and has held, and holds, many respectable positions in various organizations–he didn’t get there by being stupid.
Yea, it’s totally unacceptable, and that’s why he’s facing criminal charges. If he’s found guilty, he may go to jail. If he doesn’t go to jail, I fail to see that a conviction hinders his ability to perform his duties.
My point is that being drunk is not an excuse for anything. He was drunk and disorderly in a public place and that is not acceptable in our society no matter who it is. Thats why the drunk tank is such a popular place. Drunkeness cannot be used as an excuse for anything. The person has to be responsible for their actions.
Innocent until proven guilty? That is a great motto when youre relying on forensic evidence and there is a chance for reasonable doubt. In this case, it happened in front of hundreds of witnesses by one of the most recognizable faces in our community. What could be his defense? His evil twin did it? He has a rare medical condiition that makes him violently insane when he drinks too much?
But I suppose youre right. The process must take place.
Yes you are right, a conviction shouldn’t hinder his duties, unless he’s in jail…lol But!!! If he gets another impaired/assault charge… where would you “eccentric” draw the line? 5-6 more times,he’s known to punch,bite,drive when engaged in booze,should we all? The Fact he has charges pending in one case,me(bite-kick),jason(punch), and the 2 police officers…while being carted off…plus the DUI…and the shadow punch!! that settled $$$…HHMMmmmm… do the Math…If this was the real world, he be kicked off the team long ago…and with him… history has a strange way of repeating itself.
That’s your opinion, but in the eyes of the law intoxication IS taken into effect when charging someone with a crime and in sentencing if that person is convicted.
Wee-smack–depending on the crime–when he’s convicted of a crime and sentenced to jail time, that’s where I draw my line. He had an altercation with someone in the past, and he’s paid for it–literally. That person had the option of pressing criminal charges, but did not. That’s their problem.
As for a DUI, I’ve still seen no document showing that he was ever convicted of that crime.
It sets a terrible example, yes–and many people won’t want him representing them. Personally, I don’t care if he got in a scrap with a bouncer… that’s all.
Of course I’m not okay with that–and again, it’s not the same crime. Just because I don’t think a crime allegedly committed while drunk at the Beer Gardens doesn’t have anything to do with that Briglio’s job(s), doesn’t mean that I’m okay with someone committing any crime you can think of.
People should be punished for the crimes they commit, and if found guilty Mr. Briglio will be. Whether or not I, or anyone else, decides to support him despite a conviction is a separate issue, and their own choice.
I’m not sure what you’re saying here. Are you saying that Briglio’s resume is self serving to him, or to me? It makes perfect sense that it would serve him well–that’s kind of the idea of a resume. As for serving me, I don’t know the guy at all.
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You know watching the presentations last night was very interesting, I was trying to figure out if there are any Slates happening? Viscount seems to be on his own but was rubbing shoulders with Jack. MaClean or how ever you spell his name was alone because he only shows up every four years. Paddy Green looked like he never left and young Jason who I take my hat off to held his own the best he could. Erica was outstanding in her messages but so was the Ashley lady, Gina has a lot of confidence . I think Joy was coming on too strong… I appreciate the fact that most of them ar making a move for a change.
Pretty much…as he has made the legal system work for him on this charge…the last reg. joe that went to court for this, total time 18 months…from assualt to last day of trial. Here it will be close to 3 yrs and what will he get??? But in the ways of Karma “what goes around comes around!” The facts are ,told to me by the crown is that they have way to many cases,where so many people are being held till trial…2 people… and that why it’s taking so long…