# The NDP is ending its governance agreement with the Liberals **URL:** \ **Category:** General Chat\ **Created:** [September 4, 2024, 7:32pm UTC](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/t/the-ndp-is-ending-its-governance-agreement-with-the-liberals/19063 "2024-09-04T19:32:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![hitest](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/user_avatar/forum.hackingthemainframe.com/hitest/32/2010_2.png) [@hitest](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/u/hitest)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 7:32pm UTC](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/t/the-ndp-is-ending-its-governance-agreement-with-the-liberals/19063/1 "2024-09-04T19:32:15Z")
When it rains, it pours in politics. The NDP just terminated their agreement with Liberals. [The NDP is ending its governance agreement with the Liberals](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jagmeet-singh-ndp-ending-agreement-1.7312910) ---
**Author:** ![hitest](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/user_avatar/forum.hackingthemainframe.com/hitest/32/2010_2.png) [@hitest](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/u/hitest)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 7:36pm UTC](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/t/the-ndp-is-ending-its-governance-agreement-with-the-liberals/19063/2 "2024-09-04T19:36:59Z")
I’ll bet JT quickly caves and gives Jagmeet what he wants. JT is toast if he goes to the polls now. ---
**Author:** ![chien22](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@chien22](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/u/chien22)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2024, 9:04pm UTC](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/t/the-ndp-is-ending-its-governance-agreement-with-the-liberals/19063/3 "2024-09-05T21:04:52Z")
But two centre or left of centre parties (Liberals,NDP) with clearly articulated policies might be more dynamic running against the sloganeering, and name calling of P.P. and the cons…although PP’s hair is looking much nicer. It could be an interesting opening move on behalf of the NDP. ---
**Author:** ![hitest](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/user_avatar/forum.hackingthemainframe.com/hitest/32/2010_2.png) [@hitest](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/u/hitest)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2024, 11:09pm UTC](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/t/the-ndp-is-ending-its-governance-agreement-with-the-liberals/19063/4 "2024-09-05T23:09:45Z")
> [@chien22](#): > > But two centre or left of centre parties (Liberals,NDP) with clearly articulated policies might be more dynamic running against the sloganeering, and name calling of P.P. and the cons…although PP’s hair is looking much nicer. Unfortunately the Cons lead the Libs by 20 points. If the election is called PP will be the new PM. The best move for JT will be to give Jagmeet what he wants and try to live to fight another day. ---
**Author:** ![herbie\_popnecker](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/user_avatar/forum.hackingthemainframe.com/herbie_popnecker/32/39_2.png) [@herbie\_popnecker](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/u/herbie_popnecker)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 12:36am UTC](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/t/the-ndp-is-ending-its-governance-agreement-with-the-liberals/19063/5 "2024-09-17T00:36:33Z")
And I’m going to correct you over buying the bait that the federal liberals are left at all. They;ve defined the center for decades. The propaganda of the fascists that hijacked the conservative movement in N America have brainwashed people so much if you described the policies of Joe Clark, Robert Stanfield or Brian Mulroney they’d label them as ‘extreme leftists’. As for the NDP… bahhh! A mere shadow remnant of leftism. Dave Barrett and Ed Broadbent could claim they were, but Jack Layton was yogurt compared to their butter and Singh is 2% milk. ---
**Author:** ![hitest](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/user_avatar/forum.hackingthemainframe.com/hitest/32/2010_2.png) [@hitest](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/u/hitest)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2024, 3:07pm UTC](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/t/the-ndp-is-ending-its-governance-agreement-with-the-liberals/19063/6 "2024-09-17T15:07:34Z")
> [@herbie\_popnecker](#): > > And I’m going to correct you over buying the bait that the federal liberals are left at all. They;ve defined the center for decades. Absolutely! The Libs are indeed centrist somewhat akin to the American Democratic party. I’m glad that I never voted for JT. I remember when JT clobbered Harper in 2015 by running on a very much left of center platform. After getting in office he used billions of tax payer dollars to buy a frickin pipeline. That was never mentioned during the elction campaign. Haha. ---
**Author:** ![chien22](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@chien22](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/u/chien22)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 5:22pm UTC](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/t/the-ndp-is-ending-its-governance-agreement-with-the-liberals/19063/7 "2024-09-24T17:22:30Z")
On my behalf…a poorly worded sentence. Liberals are definitely centre with a shade of rightism…NDP have moderated their message from days of yore but still have more humane policies. Then there’s the Cons trying to ‘renew the promise of Canada’ or in Americaspeak ‘make Canada great again’. For me the current question is do we vote based on personalities, polls, past histories, or articulated policies? None of the options presents a clear alternative. ---
**Author:** ![hitest](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/user_avatar/forum.hackingthemainframe.com/hitest/32/2010_2.png) [@hitest](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/u/hitest)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 7:01pm UTC](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/t/the-ndp-is-ending-its-governance-agreement-with-the-liberals/19063/8 "2024-09-24T19:01:37Z")
> [@chien22](#): > > For me the current question is do we vote based on personalities, polls, past histories, or articulated policies? I’ll be voting primarily based on past histories and policies. Harper and the Cons were thoroughly thrashed by JT in 2015 because of their policies. JT campaigned like he was a real socialist. The Cons raised the retirement age to 67. JT lowered it back to 65 again. Boomers like me helped to vote the Cons out. I’m not a fan of JT, but, I prefer a very uneasy alliance between JT and Jagmeet to the wannabe Trump-lite twits. ---
**Author:** ![herbie\_popnecker](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/user_avatar/forum.hackingthemainframe.com/herbie_popnecker/32/39_2.png) [@herbie\_popnecker](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/u/herbie_popnecker)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 2:00am UTC](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/t/the-ndp-is-ending-its-governance-agreement-with-the-liberals/19063/9 "2024-09-26T02:00:01Z")
And now the Bloc has indicated they want him to boost pensions! OMG the commies think all us entitled freeloaders should be able to eat and pay rent like real people! Bought a dollar store punch to poke a few more holes in the belt to tighten it more if PP wins next year. ---
**Author:** ![hitest](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/user_avatar/forum.hackingthemainframe.com/hitest/32/2010_2.png) [@hitest](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/u/hitest)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2024, 3:45pm UTC](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/t/the-ndp-is-ending-its-governance-agreement-with-the-liberals/19063/10 "2024-09-26T15:45:52Z")
> [@herbie\_popnecker](#): > > Bought a dollar store punch to poke a few more holes in the belt to tighten it more if PP wins next year. Yeah exactly! I was speaking to a friendly cashier in Safeway who’s planning to retire Feb./25. She was saying how terrible JT is. She gets paid dirt wages. What do working stiffs think they’ll get if Trump-lite gets elected? ---
**Author:** ![herbie\_popnecker](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/user_avatar/forum.hackingthemainframe.com/herbie_popnecker/32/39_2.png) [@herbie\_popnecker](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/u/herbie_popnecker)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 2:07am UTC](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/t/the-ndp-is-ending-its-governance-agreement-with-the-liberals/19063/11 "2024-09-28T02:07:56Z")
It’s amazing how no matter who you ask, they can’t come up wit a rational reason they dislike Trudeau. Most don’t even know what a govt can and can’t do FFS. Or who sent those rebate cheques to pensioners & low incomes. Many actually think they’ll get more rebates and rants out of Conservatives, showing they don’t even know their basic Tory ideology. ---
**Author:** ![MiG](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/user_avatar/forum.hackingthemainframe.com/mig/32/2233_2.png) [@MiG](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/u/MiG)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 2:30am UTC](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/t/the-ndp-is-ending-its-governance-agreement-with-the-liberals/19063/12 "2024-09-28T02:30:55Z")
> [@herbie\_popnecker](#): > > It’s amazing how no matter who you ask, they can’t come up wit a rational reason they dislike Trudeau. I don’t dislike him. But I’ll never vote Liberal. 1. Promised proportional representation: “As Prime Minister, I’ll make sure the 2015 election will be the last under first-past-the-post system.” [https://x.com/JustinTrudeau/status/646114034463338497](https://x.com/JustinTrudeau/status/646114034463338497) 1. His local candidate here called me a Terrorist for being against a bill that would allow unsupervised spying on Canadians, on Canadian soil, without a warrant. So fuck Trudeau, yeah. But not for the usual reasons. ---
**Author:** ![chien22](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@chien22](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/u/chien22)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 4:47pm UTC](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/t/the-ndp-is-ending-its-governance-agreement-with-the-liberals/19063/13 "2024-09-28T16:47:20Z")
Your alternative(s) or is there one? ---
**Author:** ![hitest](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/user_avatar/forum.hackingthemainframe.com/hitest/32/2010_2.png) [@hitest](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/u/hitest)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 5:16pm UTC](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/t/the-ndp-is-ending-its-governance-agreement-with-the-liberals/19063/14 "2024-09-28T17:16:23Z")
We have a new candidate for the NDP here in RupertLand; she’s running to be our new MLA. I’ll be voting early for Tamara D. on October 10th. I’ll be voting for Taylor B. when the next Federal election happens. ---
**Author:** ![hitest](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/user_avatar/forum.hackingthemainframe.com/hitest/32/2010_2.png) [@hitest](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/u/hitest)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2024, 9:06pm UTC](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/t/the-ndp-is-ending-its-governance-agreement-with-the-liberals/19063/15 "2024-09-28T21:06:08Z")
Sankey just knocked on my door. I wished him well and let him know that I’m voting NDP. ---
**Author:** ![herbie\_popnecker](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/user_avatar/forum.hackingthemainframe.com/herbie_popnecker/32/39_2.png) [@herbie\_popnecker](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/u/herbie_popnecker)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 2:12am UTC](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/t/the-ndp-is-ending-its-governance-agreement-with-the-liberals/19063/16 "2024-10-03T02:12:18Z")
I wasn’t so nice to Rustad’s flunky, Gave them a dozen reasons as they walked away. Looks like Taylor’s got my vote too when the time finally comes. ---
**Author:** ![hitest](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/user_avatar/forum.hackingthemainframe.com/hitest/32/2010_2.png) [@hitest](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/u/hitest)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/t/the-ndp-is-ending-its-governance-agreement-with-the-liberals/19063/17 "2024-10-03T02:56:58Z")
> [@herbie\_popnecker](#): > > Looks like Taylor’s got my vote too when the time finally comes. Same for me here. I’m voting for Taylor. ---
**Author:** ![hitest](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/user_avatar/forum.hackingthemainframe.com/hitest/32/2010_2.png) [@hitest](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/u/hitest)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 1:38pm UTC](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/t/the-ndp-is-ending-its-governance-agreement-with-the-liberals/19063/18 "2024-10-15T13:38:41Z")
I’ll be curious to see if the calls for JT to leave grow in strength. ---
**Author:** ![hitest](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/user_avatar/forum.hackingthemainframe.com/hitest/32/2010_2.png) [@hitest](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/u/hitest)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 12:38am UTC](https://forum.hackingthemainframe.com/t/the-ndp-is-ending-its-governance-agreement-with-the-liberals/19063/19 "2024-10-31T00:38:40Z")
JT is still the PM and he’s let his party know that they can pound sand. He’s staying on. PP would love an election right now because he’d clean up. Things are heating up, I’m getting lots of political fund raising emails.