Teachers on strike poll

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/10/07/bc_teachers_20051007.html

It is at these moments in time that I wish I had a car. I totally want to drive by and honk in support!

Right on guys! Don’t let the government push you around!

Workers of the World UNITE!

They CAN’T go on strike in this province people, it’s an illegal walkout and every day they do it are subject to massive fines.

I read in the paper that the teaches want a fair salary increase to. Notice the Increase. They want more money and teachers…

I say lower there wages and hire more teachers

bcliberals.com/EN/309/7233

You need more education, not less. How can you read the paper, yet you can barely write?

I’ll bet you work at a gas station, don’t you?

But don’t let me stop you from demonstrating your ignorance and IQ level. You’re doing a great job of it.

Everybody else that has posted here actually makes sense, but you seem really bitter. I’ll bet you’re 29 years old and working at a gas station, and you want to blame teachers for that, right?

You know that the Prince Rupert school district has unfilled teacher positions, right? You know why? You’re not going to get a psychologist or specialist teacher to move to Prince Rupert for the shitty salary, when they can go to Alberta or Ontario and make a lot more money.

And you want them to make less money? Why? Because you’re a loser who dropped out of high school, you think everybody else should be too?

If we can’t have a discussion without ignorance, name-calling and general shitty-ness, I’ll just be deleting comments and locking forums, ok? Thanks.

If you disagree with an issue, tell us why you disagree. If you agree, tell us why you agree.

Being a bitter bastard (no matter which side of an issue you’re on) will just make you look like a bitter bastard. I’ve already deleted the worst posts, but seriously guys, no personal attacks, eh?

:smiley: my two cents
I realy dont know a hole lot of whats going on, but im looking and reading the paper as we speak, to understand why the teachers went on stike, I think the goverment can be down right scarry telling you and passing laws so you cant strike. police state.
Mig is right talk about the issues pros and cons… and how you feel about it, no need to bash other peoples views… :smiley:

Well, all those issues aside, Canadians (and British Columbians) are pretty pissed off that the USA fails to live up to it international committments.

We hate (and can’t understand) how the USA just ignores all these international bodies that keep ruling against them on the softwood lumber issue.

The irony here is that a lot of international bodies (to which we are signatories) have also ruled against British Columbia on the whole “using legislation to break contracts” thing. Yet the BC government ignores them.

This isn’t a Liberal-NDP thing. Having a government that interferes in negotiations is just crappy. When the NDP was in power, the BCTF had no desire to negotiate, 'cause the NDP would just legislate them back with a favourable deal. Now the Liberals are in power, and the BCPSEA has no desire to negotiate, 'cause the Liberals will just legislate an agreement.

We’ve never had successful negotiations, because there’s always been government interference. Let the negotiations happen, and both sides will get a bit of what they want. That’s how negotiations work.

And if you think we take this crap lightly, we don’t. I don’t want to be broke, I don’t want to be standing in the rain and not working. I like work. But man, at some point you gotta stand up and say enough.

I’m sick of telling students “sorry, we can’t have this course or that course” and making excuses for the government.

Liberal Government: “How can we cut the budget, and still pull in 6 figure saleries for ourselves?”… I reccomend that if the government gives you a fine, to rip/burn it up and mail it back to them.

In reply to Mariena, who started this whole thread, I think I can summarize, through my amazing empathy, how the teachers feel.

Yes, your education will suffer as a result of this strike. You will have missed classes, the school year will need to cover the same quantity in a shorter time, and that sucks.

But your education has and will continue to suffer even more without accessible and qualified teachers who are genuinely interested in doing their job well.

MiG is a good example. When I was in high school, how often were myself and the other self-proclaimed dorks at school well into the evening, or on weekends, engaged in some display of abject geekery, tooling around with old computer parts, stealthily subnetting the school LAN, programming, video editing, etc?

MiG was there for all that kind of stuff, giving us the tools and environment to explore a field (in this case information technology), and fostering the skills that many of that crowd have since turned into careers.

The point is, you can talk about summers/christmas/spring break off, cushy job, easy hours or whatever. But MiG could easily have booted us all out the door at 3:00, and fucked off and gone fishing. He wasn’t getting paid for hanging out at the school with a bunch of teenagers. But he recognized that we were all eager to learn, and he was willing to invest his own time, and in many cases, money to facilitate that learning.

That is what the teachers are trying to protect. They aren’t interested in doing their job, if they aren’t allowed to do their job well.

[quote=“Eso”]In reply to Mariena, who started this whole thread, I think I can summarize, through my amazing empathy, how the teachers feel.

Yes, your education will suffer as a result of this strike. You will have missed classes, the school year will need to cover the same quantity in a shorter time, and that sucks.

But your education has and will continue to suffer even more without accessible and qualified teachers who are genuinely interested in doing their job well.

MiG is a good example. When I was in high school, how often were myself and the other self-proclaimed dorks at school well into the evening, or on weekends, engaged in some display of abject geekery, tooling around with old computer parts, stealthily subnetting the school LAN, programming, video editing, etc?

MiG was there for all that kind of stuff, giving us the tools and environment to explore a field (in this case information technology), and fostering the skills that many of that crowd have since turned into careers.

The point is, you can talk about summers/christmas/spring break off, cushy job, easy hours or whatever. But MiG could easily have booted us all out the door at 3:00, and fucked off and gone fishing. He wasn’t getting paid for hanging out at the school with a bunch of teenagers. But he recognized that we were all eager to learn, and he was willing to invest his own time, and in many cases, money to facilitate that learning.

That is what the teachers are trying to protect. They aren’t interested in doing their job, if they aren’t allowed to do their job well.[/quote]

Aren’t you an auto-mechanic or something now? Why didn’t you go into computers with all of your nerdy friends?

I got laid and stopped being such a dork.

Well said. Your post makes me want to become a teacher and put in that sort of an effort myself. sniff

Even as an auto-mechanic I’ll bet some of those geeky computer skills still come in handy. After all, cars have a lot of high tech stuff in them these days.

Oh and Eso that post earlier to Mariena was one of the best I’ve seen you do. Keep that up and it will ruin your rep around here for sure! :wink:

Mike

I was worried about that, and that’s why I quickly followed it up with by using the expression “got laid”.

My friends mom is a secretary and they said there is probly no school all next week.

That is speculation. No one knows what will happen.

I know of at least one teacher at CHSS that has a class of 37!