According to The Tyee,
They are predicting Roger Harris winning in Skeena, as well as BC Liberal wins in a couple of Prince George ridings:
boo! but hey what can you expect people cant seem to remember 4 years ago how much better things were let alone think for themselves.
ps they got us the port remember 
it’s bs to say that things were any better off four years ago.
I agree!!!
Like things were SOOOOOO much better 8-4 years ago when the NDP were in power. All this region had going for them was a dying pulp mill, now they have a FUTURE with, and regardless of what you NDPers want to believe, with the Liberals help.
At least the region is actually being looked at, when was the last time THAT happened with the NDP government,
Picking NDP is taking 4 steps back!!
[quote=“Guest”]I agree!!!
Like things were SOOOOOO much better 8-4 years ago when the NDP were in power. All this region had going for them was a dying pulp mill, now they have a FUTURE with, and regardless of what you NDPers want to believe, with the Liberals help.
At least the region is actually being looked at, when was the last time THAT happened with the NDP government,
Picking NDP is taking 4 steps back!![/quote]
Didn’t the NDP keep the mill running by putting lots of money in it?
Didn’t Belsey say in his last campaign that he didn’t care about the mill because he will be in Victoria anyway?
The Liberals didn’t have a choice but helping. How would it look for any MLA, however useless he/she is, to go against such a project? Polical suicide!
The previous poster seems to ignore factors outside of BC like the rising economy of China and the oil revenues. The fact is, BC needed equalization payment almost every year under the Liberals.
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[quote=“Guest”]I agree!!!
Like things were SOOOOOO much better 8-4 years ago when the NDP were in power. All this region had going for them was a dying pulp mill, now they have a FUTURE with, and regardless of what you NDPers want to believe, with the Liberals help.
At least the region is actually being looked at, when was the last time THAT happened with the NDP government,
Picking NDP is taking 4 steps back!![/quote]
Didn’t the NDP keep the mill running by putting lots of money in it?
Didn’t Belsey say in his last campaign that he didn’t care about the mill because he will be in Victoria anyway?
The Liberals didn’t have a choice but helping. How would it look for any MLA, however useless he/she is, to go against such a project? Polical suicide!
The previous poster seems to ignore factors outside of BC like the rising economy of China and the oil revenues. The fact is, BC needed equalization payment almost every year under the Liberals.[/quote]
The NDP bought the Pulp Mill spent over 200 Million and Like the previous post it was dying The Province should never have bought it. the province should not being using tax dollers to bail out company’s Period!!! AND were was the logging and minning under the NDP it was non excitence… there are more jobs now then before…
Logging:http://www.wffps.bc.ca/raw_log_export.htm
Mining:http://www.miningwatch.org/emcbc/
I’m not against these activities. I’m against the liberals treating the North like it’s the brazilian rain forest!
You say that the government should not have helped Skeena Cellulose. Yet they help the mining industry by giving them huge tax breaks which in the end is the same thing.
you dont get it, they didnt help Skeena they bought it… BIG DIFFERENCE,
then giving a tax break. Goverment has no place in buying out failing corporations with our tax money,
Logging can be done with min inpacked to the environment look at sweden and norway and there logging practice’s its amazing…
[quote=“Astrothug”]you dont get it, they didnt help Skeena they bought it… BIG DIFFERENCE,
then giving a tax break. Goverment has no place in buying out failing corporations with our tax money,
Logging can be done with min inpacked to the environment look at sweden and norway and there logging practice’s its amazing…[/quote]
WAC Bennet didn’t see a problem. Now you know you can get to Vancouver Island from A,B or C at given times. Even used to have our own railroad. Still have the electric corp. Funny thing was no one ever called him a socialist.
You mean the socialist countries of Norway and Sweden? With the highest taxes in the western world? Logging companies owned by the government? That Norway and Sweden? With free education, free health care, and really really high taxes? That Norway and Sweden? You think the BC Liberals are going to follow that model?
I hope we keep it couse if it was privatized… American intrest’s groups would buy it up and ship water and power out of our province.
what you missed there is that Skeena does not effect the hole of BC, not Like a Bc Ferries, or BC Hydro or BC rail which benifit the hole province.
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You mean the socialist countries of Norway and Sweden? With the highest taxes in the western world? Logging companies owned by the government? That Norway and Sweden? With free education, free health care, and really really high taxes? That Norway and Sweden? You think the BC Liberals are going to follow that model?[/quote]
LOL your a funny man Mig you are right they have high taxes but they also have a free education system there… and great medi care…cant have your cake and eat it too…ehhh
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My post above sorry forgot to log in… Mig All i said is that they have a great way of logging its done in strips say 1 mile by 12 miles now you have 100 strips by the time u finished logging the last strip you go back to the first strip couse its ready to be logged…
we here in BC just go in and log…it was only in the last 30 years we see tree planting here…
I know first hand what logging does as I did it when I was younger…
Im not saying lets model our goverment with there’s just there logging practice…OK…
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LOL your a funny man Mig you are right they have high taxes but they also have a free education system there… and great medi care…cant have your cake and eat it too…ehhh
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Do you have a point?
[quote=“Astrothug”]
Im not saying lets model our goverment with there’s just there logging practice…OK…[/quote]
That’s what you don’t get. In order for these countries to have establish such logging practices, the vision of their people towards the land had to be modified. People realized that in the long term, the value of the resource would be increased if it was sustainable. The liberals are as far from this kind of vision as can be. Take as much now, export raw logs, make the money now and leave future governments with the problems.
Did you know that some scandinavian forest companies log in Canada? And that they don’t follow their same practices here because the regulations are not the same. In their countries, they must follow the law of the land but when they come here, the laws are not as strict so they don’t need to be as careful. They say “You can’t blame us, blame your governments” which tells you that corporate ethics is as thick as a dollar bill. But they are right because they are in the business of making money.
It is our choice as citizen of the land to elect government who will make sure that the timber that is logged is bringing the maximum value to the people in the province, especially in the north. I don’t think that increasing raw log exports fits in that choice. I don’t think the liberals have this vision.
the Liberals didnt couse the mess with the logging practise that have been taken place over the last 80 years preveous goverment did…and again Im saying we as a province should model after scandinavian forest practice’s. weather its a liberal, NDP, green or the marijuana party. stop twisting my words around…
And what I’m saying is that the liberals are the less likely government to adopt such practices. Yet you think that they are good for logging. You’re the one twisting your own words around!
lol …go hug a tree…
people are working in the logging industry again thats what Im saying…
[quote=“Astrothug”]lol …go hug a tree…
people are working in the logging industry again thats what Im saying…[/quote]
Twisting your own words again. Short memory!
I know Bigthumb as a province what do you think we should do,
you dont seem to be incline to see the natual recources being used eg: Logging, minning, oil and gas. if im wrong ok I know you will correct me.
should BC become a welfare province ? What do you stand for.
I’ll be staight up with you…
what I want better healthcare for all, better education, better jobs for all, natual resourses being used repectfully… a goverment that awnsers to the people. people in the province want to work, the miners the loggers the fisherman… and they all can be working. I would like to see the end of raw log export to China, I would like too see buisness open up in prince rupert. I would like to see your kids have a bright future in our province, and before Bigthumb you ask do you think you will see the liberals do that for us. I dont care if its the liberals or the NDP or Green our who ever, thats what I want…