Re: U.N. Is Set to Vote on Iran Sanctions

As pertain to war mongering countries/regimes: Can someone inform us as to the numbers of wars started by Iran versus the ones started by the USA over the last 100 years?

Just out of curiosity, at which government office does one obtain a trolling licence from?

For a comprehensive list of American Wars:

cassiopaea.org/cass/uswars.htm

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Iranian War:  None

(Iran/Iraq war was started by Iraq against Iran with the help from the West)

… and so, if one wants to think of ‘madness’ this should be a no brainer … no need for “throlling” , a simple cursory reading shall do.  That should satisfy your “out of curiosity”

The number if conflicts any given nation has been involved in doesn’t have much bearing on the current threat they pose. By your logic Canada is a greater threat to the international community than Iran.

Maybe take some time to review some of the dispatches coming out of Tehran over the last few years.

Some of the Ayatollah’s forward thinking articles and Mr.  Ahmadinejad’s more bombastic thoughts on the current state of world peace.  Then try to square the circle of Iran as a nuclear weapon capable nation.

Maybe those commentaries led to the recent announcement of sanctions against Iran.

Would be interested in your thoughts on what Iran has planned for its expanded nuclear program, as it seems the majority of the world doesn’t quite see that nation as a peaceful proponent of just nuclear power.

According to what leap of logic did you arrive to such a conclusion?  Are you saying that a war minded country is less likely to enter into a new war … a bit odd if you ask me.

You didn’t give any evidence that they’re war-minded, you gave a link to a list of conflicts they’ve been involved in. Should we go through the list of the war mongering United States and remove all the ones that were justified or necessary?

Let’s start with the most recent wars: Iraq and Vietnam … “justified or necessary” would you say?  Most costly wars in human lives and treasury

Might want to rethink the ‘lives’ bit. But be that as it may, I’m not saying Iran has always or will always be a threat to international security; the issue is that right now, they are.

So how many times did other countries get into it in the last 100 years? Way more than the USA.
Not that they’re blameless. Claiming the airport expansion WE funded wasn’t for tourists in 747s but for Russian/Cuban bombers and invading an island the size of a postage stamp just because they could wasn’t exactly something to brag about.
Although Hollywood managed to, with an Clint Eastwood movie longer and more expensive than the war.
Don’t forget the Yanks rebuilt Germany, Japan, the Philippines. And LEFT.
They also conned the Brits in their hour of need to signing away their colonial empire AQAP for a bunch of old destroyers.
Don’t judge them solely on their errors. Like my mother in law says, Americans are good overall but they’re a nation of well meaning boors.

Actually, the USA’s continued support (weapons, money,etc) of Israel’s illegal Zionist expansion in the Occupied Territories would be a good example of the US christian government’s ambition to “spur” on their deity’s  arrival.

Which begs a question, in the context of this thread, why isn’t Canada and the rest of the world asking for sanctions against Israel for its 40+ years of illegal settlement/expansion activities? Double standard maybe?

international.gc.ca/name-…aspx?lang=eng

Occupied Territories and Settlements

Canada does not recognize permanent Israeli control over territories occupied in 1967 (the Golan Heights, the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip). The Fourth Geneva Convention applies in the occupied territories and establishes Israel’s obligations as an occupying power, in particular with respect to the humane treatment of the inhabitants of the occupied territories. As referred to in UN Security Council Resolutions 446 and 465, Israeli settlements in the occupied territories are a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention. The settlements also constitute a serious obstacle to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace.

Canada believes that both Israel and the Palestinian Authority must fully respect international human rights and humanitarian law which is key to ensuring the protection of civilians, and can contribute to the creation of a climate conducive to achieving a just, lasting and comprehensive peace settlement.

A good video about Christian and Judaic Zionism’s support of Israel’s expansionism.

pbs.org/now/politics/czionism.html

Video link after 2nd paragraph.  Realplayer video unfortunately. Worth a look.

Or they’re simply supporting another nation based on political and moral reasons.

You might not agree with the United States’ official stance of supporting Israel from the sidelines, but that hardly makes them complicit in Israel’s “ambition to ‘spur’ on their deity’s arrival.” (Especially since we’re talking about two different deities, here. The Israelites are waiting for their Messiah, the Christian is waiting for the second coming… that issue is bound to put a kink in their Zionist expansion and illegal ambition to get spurs in the horse of their deity’s occupied territory. Or whatever…)

Looks familiar?

bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/2 … _pale.html

LOL, you didn’t watch the video did you?

Hard to tell if this video is a ‘promo/support’ or an ‘attack’ … looks like bait and switch to me.