The upcoming Fire Fox version 3 is looking to be an outstanding browser; it uses less memory than IE, Opera or FF 2.0.0.12.
Seems really ripping fast, I just extracted the source code for FF 3.0b4 from mozilla.com.
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Is it stable now? How many more betas before itâs ready?
Seems stable enough. It is now at beta 4, Iâm not sure how many more betas before the final release:-)
Uses less memory O__O nice nice
Ah you had all my hopes up
The rendering still isnât as nice as Safari / webkitâs. It still doesnât do sub-pixel rendering properly.
On top of that, theyâve added this crazy GUI.
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Take a look at this line. Which is rendering better, the top or bottom? Click for the large version.
This will only look right on an LCD, I think:
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The rendering for fonts in FF 3b4 isnât as good for me on my Slackware box as FF 2.0.0.12. Hopefully theyâll clean that up.
Firefox has never rendered fonts all that well, at least compared to Opera. Thatâs why i always set it to use one font of all web pages.
I tried Opera, the only reason I didnt stick with it is because everytime itâs loads it asks if you want to start a new session or continue from where you left off last time.
This is a great feature for when you want to continue after a system crash, but I just hate how it asks every single time. Is there anyway to disable this? I couldnt find it in options.
Plus Opera is just plain ugly. I felt like I was surfing on IE5.
I canât wait for FF3, I miss the speediness of phoenix or firebird, whatever the hell it was called before.
You can set Opera to start at a home page of your choosing.
Been using the Beta for a week, I like it.
Asides from no âhome page buttonâ (which I want!), it seems quicker, hasnât crashed once.
Are you guys talking about on a Mac or Linux, I havenât noticed anything odd about fonts at all on my XP laptop.
The fonts seem a bit crappy on my Slackware box for FF 3b4. FF 2.0.0.12 seems to render fonts better for me on Slackware 12. I havenât tried FF 3b4 on Debian or OS X (Iâm running FF 2.0.0.12 on those units).
Fonts are fine in Firefox 2.0.0.12 for I, and omgosh Iâm on Win XP Home
Maybe you guys have some unfortunate font issues?
itâs possible that youâre missing a certain font, and that Firefox is using a random font to compensate?
mmm
I canât wait until 3.0 comes out!
Can you post a screenshot?
Itâs not that the fonts arenât there. Itâs that Firefox doesnât handle sub-pixel rendering properly. If you donât see a difference in the example above, then donât worry about it
HmmmmmmâŚsome screenshots. I think FF 2.0.0.12 is just slightly better for me on Slackware 12, but, not by much.
compare1.jpg is FF3b4 and compare2.jpg is FF 2.0.0.12.
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did you want me to post a SS of just what my FF window looks like?
If you google around, youâll see what Iâm talking about. Take a look at this bloggerâs post, he has screenshots and gives some opinion:
brokenkode.com/archives/font-rendering/
The thing is, most people are ok with âgood enough.â I mean we all used 9-pin dot-matrix printers in the past, but once youâve used a 600- or 1200-DPI laser printer, youâre just not going back to dot-matrix.
Well, the same thing happens with font rendering. Once youâve seen text on a screen that faithfully reproduces a font the way the designer wanted, then you canât go back to smooshed fonts and stuff like that. Good enough all of a sudden isnât good enough.
Windows Cleartype is pretty good, actually. But it still makes sub-pixel decisions based on its algorithm, not on what the font designer intended. So sometimes the descender on the âgâ doesnât look right, or whatever.Â
But yeah, if you donât really care about fonts and stuff like that, then âgood enoughâ is good enough for you
You can see the difference without even having to download the attachments.
Wierd.
I noticed no difference at all between 3beta4 and 2.0.12 on the XP laptop.
No, I guess I was just hoping that Firefox would take some of the work the other open-source browser project has done in the area of font rendering and incorporate it into FF3.Â
Theyâve just kept the same renderer as FF2.Â
Meanwhile khtml has leapfrogged everybody and is doing awesome shit with CSS3 and itâs had the proper font-rendering stuff in there for a long time.Â
css3.info/khtml-356-is-the-m ⌠nt-of-all/
Thereâs no reason that Firefox shouldnât be out in front.