Pinnacle wood pellet terminal

I don’t really have an informed opinion the terminal. Just a couple of thoughts, though.

When I was shopping around for a house in Prince Rupert, more than 10 years ago, we were shown some houses on Water St (is that what it’s called? At the bottom of Graham). Nice house, great price. First words out of the realtor’s mouth were “the area in front of this house is zoned for industrial use. So expect it to be used for that purpose in the future.”

Second thought: Will having a terminal terminal nearby mean cheaper pellet fuel?

Just an FYI,

The area adjacent to my home is owned by the port and at one time was zoned light industrial. when i purchased my home it had been rezoned to multi-family residential and is still zoned that today. the area for the proposed pellet facility is less than 100 feet from the edge of that property. fortunate that no-one bought across the street

This is not just an issue for the adjacent area, the carcinogenic dut will travel far, just like the smell from than bio source plant did. Anyone who believes there will be no dust needs to go see a ship loading. It may be improved but not eliminated. Contrary to what Juniors dad said about there being no dust problems in the rainiest city. NOT TRUE. Just go to PortEd and run a finger over any flat surface and it will come away black with coal dust, even up on the highest street away from the tracks. Houses are being power washed for free. West view is no place for pinnacle. If they put there their new motto can be “breath our dust”

I could understand the outrage if the city was rezoning residential land to light industrial for this facility but the anger over this is just silly. You chose a poor location for your home.

Just like the choo choo train argument.

Just to clarify a question asked earlier, the port authority does pay taxes to the City. But in the most recent provincial budget a temporary cap on port property taxes was made permanent. So the City will keep getting the exact same amount of money year after year from the port while the provincial government offers a flat rate reimbursement pegged with inflation. bcbudget.gov.bc.ca/2012/back … nder_3.pdf

And also…about the potential dust problems that seem to be a major concern…people keep saying to go see the grain and coal terminals load to get an idea of the dust that will be created. But this comparison is totally unfair. I won’t go around claiming there won’t be any dust created at this facility, but the conveyor system is covered. I live quite close by the Westview site and am not worried about the dust. It’s the light and noise I think will ultimately bug people the most. But that’s the cost of economic development.

If we claim to be a town open for business ,wanting so desperately to get back on a solid economic footing, there have to be trade offs. Cliches become cliches for a reason: they are loaded with timeless truth. “Beggars can’t be choosers”.

Lastly, I dare Hissyfit to prove that any flat surface in Port Ed is covered with coal dust. Who is getting their house power washed for free? I want in on that deal too!

Well if you live on graham I’m sure once the pellets are loading onto boats there will be an offer to power wash your house too. Ask someone who owns a house in PortEd about it, it’s true. I would also stock up on dust masks, as demand will be high. Won’t that look cool to see people walking around wearing dust masks, just like Bejing.

Someone in Port Ed: what’s the deal with free power washing for your house?

They are covered in coal dust, not sure who’s paying, the village or the coal port or maybe both.

Funny. I used to work for the grain elevator for two summers, and I never recall finding that invasive black dust coming from the next door neighbour RTI.

RTI regularly keep the coal moist so black dust doesn’t go flying anywhere. Anyway.

Hissyfit, pics or I assume you’re trying to legitimize your argument by bullshitting.

There is coal dust in Port Edward, no question, but it might come from the trains going through.

Mr. PLA I am not bullshitting, I am not nutters, but I think you are a bully. I do not believe for one minute that there will be no dust, just like I don’ t believe the pipeline or tankers won’t leak, enbridge had a pipeline leak in the Athabaska last week by the way. The Coalport said they would control the dust too. maybe they should be hosing the cars down in Terrace though, that could help. I’ve never noticed the coal dust at Ridley either, but I sure did at the mill, maybe wind direction?

That’s what militant anarchists (nutters) usually say.

Well the pellet terminal isn’t an oil pipeline, and dust environment will be dealt with using 21st century technology. Get over it, the sky is not falling. This is nothing compared to the pipeline leak at Glennifer Lake which spoiled tap water sources for some.

You should hangout with conspiracy theorist DHCollins one day.

The only two locations where the pellets will be exposed to the environment and thus have the potential for dust emissions are at the rail unloading station and at the discharge if the ship loading spout. Looks not too bad to me :smile:

Check this article out everybody!
advancedbiomass.com/2010/10/ … g-pellets-–-things-to-consider/

[quote=“Hissyfit”]Check this article out everybody!
advancedbiomass.com/2010/10/ … g-pellets-–-things-to-consider/[/quote]

“It is well established that in the movement of product on belt conveyors and bucket elevators dust is produced at loading points, reloading points, and discharge points. This is due to the fact that, at those points, the product mass-flow is disturbed creating air turbulence and positive pressure in the process. To control dust emissions at those points, negative air pressure is applied to neutralize this effect and to collect through air aspiration airborne dust. Aspirated dust is then filtered using various types of dust filters.
The major factor influencing the magnitude of the turbulence is the conveyor speed and product velocity. In conventional terminals, belt conveyors, partly for economic reasons, are designed for speeds in the range of 3.0 m/s to 3.5 m/s. Bucket elevators are designed for centrifugal product discharge with belt speeds in the range of 3.0 m/s to 3.5 m/s. At these speeds, substantial air turbulence is produced inside bucket elevator casings and belt conveyor loading/reloading/transfer points.
At the proposed Westview Terminal, a low speed design concept will be employed throughout to reduce dust production and emissions, with the duel benefit of reducing product degradation.”

pinnaclepellet.com/images/DRAFT- … Report.pdf. Pg. 10

Thanks for being so quick to point out the REAL information about this project Crazy Horse.

This fear mongering from private interest of Water/Beach & Graham Avenue residents needs to STOP.

and for good measure:

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. Voltaire

The article I posted a link to earlier says that “a fine talc like dust which travels long distances in the slightest breeze” is created when handling pellets. In Pinnacles own words they can only improve upon this when ship loading not eliminate. Depending on wind direction this talc like dust could affect many areas so town. It also says that with modifications a coal facility could be able to accommodate this product. West view is the cheapest place for them not the best!