Mayor Poll

This is precisely why I am nervous…he says he supports LNG, but then he makes crazy statements like this…so he wants to mobilize us away from a fossil fuel economy? That puts him directly in conflict with Ridley Coal Terminal which is one of the biggest taxpayers, sponsors and employers in the region.

Running a campaign that promises to dismantle industries that directly affect high-paying Prince Rupert employment and property taxes does not scare anyone else? It makes me pause for sure and makes me question what his true intentions are…it does not instill trust and it certainly contradicts things he has said and promised during his campaign.

[quote=“jamesbrown”]

You make an excellent point : I think many have forgotten that he likely has a further politcial career agenda. For me LNG isnt even off the drawing board and its speculation I feel Lee Brain is intelligent enough to find a balance between his “grass roots” beliefs and what is good for the city. I also think he is the only one of the mayorial candiates that have any concern for the environmental aspects of the projects[/quote]

Considering we will have a first yes or no decision probably in 1 month, I would say it is much closer to reality than it is to “speculation”. We will see though…if there is a yes decision in December, work will begin in January and only continue to escalate from there.

[quote=“bthedog”]

You make an excellent point : I think many have forgotten that he likely has a further politcial career agenda. For me LNG isnt even off the drawing board and its speculation I feel Lee Brain is intelligent enough to find a balance between his “grass roots” beliefs and what is good for the city. I also think he is the only one of the mayorial candiates that have any concern for the environmental aspects of the projects

Considering we will have a first yes or no decision probably in 1 month, I would say it is much closer to reality than it is to “speculation”. We will see though…if there is a yes decision in December, work will begin in January and only continue to escalate from there.[/quote]

Considering the EA for PNW LNG is not done, and that they had to revise their application, pretty sure construction “ramping up by January” is hardly a foregone conclusion.

[quote=“bthedog”]

This is precisely why I am nervous…he says he supports LNG, but then he makes crazy statements like this…so he wants to mobilize us away from a fossil fuel economy? That puts him directly in conflict with Ridley Coal Terminal which is one of the biggest taxpayers, sponsors and employers in the region.

Running a campaign that promises to dismantle industries that directly affect high-paying Prince Rupert employment and property taxes does not scare anyone else? It makes me pause for sure and makes me question what his true intentions are…it does not instill trust and it certainly contradicts things he has said and promised during his campaign.[/quote]

Fair enough but I am not willing to have high paying jobs at any cost to the environment … Lee is not an idiot and the youth are the one’s that will have to deal with the environmental costs of these projects well into the future… I believe he offers balance on this issue… Anyway I vote for change or did already.

[quote=“TerriblePerson”]

[quote=“bthedog”]

Considering we will have a first yes or no decision probably in 1 month, I would say it is much closer to reality than it is to “speculation”. We will see though…if there is a yes decision in December, work will begin in January and only continue to escalate from there.[/quote]

Considering the EA for PNW LNG is not done, and that they had to revise their application, pretty sure construction “ramping up by January” is hardly a foregone conclusion.[/quote]

Land clearing can begin in regards to this project before EA is complete, it is already happening as we speak. The provincial EA will likely come before January and the federal EA will be sometime in mid 2015.

A yes decision in December puts this project way closer to reality than speculation, and the local market of the area will certainly respond to a yes decision almost immediately.

THIS!

Be careful Prince Rupert!!!

Wrong!

“Prince Rupert’s Mayor Jack Mussallem said residents in his resource-dependent community don’t want to play a role in getting Alberta oil products to Asia”

m.theglobeandmail.com/news/briti … ice=mobile

[quote=“Crazy Train”]

Wrong!

“Prince Rupert’s Mayor Jack Mussallem said residents in his resource-dependent community don’t want to play a role in getting Alberta oil products to Asia”

m.theglobeandmail.com/news/briti … ice=mobile[/quote]

Okay now we swtiched from LNG to Enbridge but whatever I am glad this aspect of Lee re: Green Party went unmetioned until now… I still feel change is long over due and it seems others feel the same…

I think anybody who seriously thinks that any construction of anything major beginning as soon as Jan better lay off the glue

Ditto : and Lee is not an idiot and change is over due “it’s time”

When you run for elected office, should you run on your beliefs and principals or run on what will get you elected.
When you run on being open is that for others or yourself also. It sounds like we still have business behind closed doors and hidden agendas so what’s the change?

Clearly you referring to me…how do you explain construction that is currently happening then? They have already begun work camps for this terminal.

So we can assume that you feel that our future lies in more, completely unchecked, plundering, that global warming is a hoax, and we should hitch our cart entirely on LNG as we have to past industries?
I would venture to guess that most of us share Mr. Brain’s sentiments to (to also quote your source, his Enbridge JPR speech) “create resilient, sustainable and flourishing communities, that have the adaptive capacity to respond to any challenges they may face in their external environment – and be able to effectively respond specifically to the coming age of peak oil, climate change and rampant global economic instability.”
He said this in speaking out against the Enbridge pipeline, which a large majority of North Coast citizens oppose. It’s true, he has reservations about LNG - as should we all. Those who would give carte blanche to proponents clearly don’t care about the environment and the city’s long-term future at all. It’s because of people like Brain that PNW LNG has changed its plans and is offering a more environmentally responsible option.
Brain has said that he will do his best to advance the interests of the community and if that includes LNG, he wants it to be done responsibly and with a long-term plan, as explained here: leebrain.com/lng
There is undoubtedly going to be dissent on some of the issues that come before council; that can’t be avoided. And Mr. Brain’s concerns for the environment and the future of the community may indeed cause him to oppose a particular project. But I firmly believe that if that happens he - if the majority of council disagrees with him - will respect the will of the group, not succumb to ego, and keep his promise of leading a functional, productive council.

Then run on your aspirations rather than run from them to be politically expedient and never assume because you can’t paint all your critics with the same brush.

[quote=“Crazy Train”]
If memory serves me correctly, the online sentiment during previous elections was not a true indicator of public sentiment as the actual results were different from what was the common feeling online.

History also tells us that there is often little change.[/quote]

As the young ones say … LOL.

I think you give Lee Brain far too much credit that PNW made changes to the project. I believe the Northern View hammered them week after week for the risks to salmon.

ht.ly/EvntW

[quote=“TerriblePerson”]

I think you give Lee Brain far too much credit that PNW made changes to the project. I believe the Northern View hammered them week after week for the risks to salmon.[/quote]

I think you give Northern View too much credit that PNW made changes to the project. PNW didn’t have to read the newspaper to know what the stakeholders they met with thought or that the panel had asked for further information about the proposed location.

I suspect that we agree, though, that the City’s influence (or that of any local politicians) is limited at best, unless a project is proposed within City limits, in which case zoning by-laws can be used to prohibit a type of project.

Um… did you not see Shaun Thomas hammer PNW column after column?

thenorthernview.com/news/220264881.html

thenorthernview.com/news/278 … obile=true

terracestandard.com/news/281 … obile=true

Lee Brain simply read these stories and echoed the concerns.

[quote=“TerriblePerson”]Um… did you not see Shaun Thomas hammer PNW column after column?

thenorthernview.com/news/220264881.html

thenorthernview.com/news/278 … obile=true

terracestandard.com/news/281 … obile=true

Lee Brain simply read these stories and echoed the concerns.[/quote]

Shaun did not “hammer” PNW, thus forcing them to change their plans. He reported news. He’s a journalist, not an environmental activist.

The 19 Aug 2013 story especially captures that the panel considers and responds to submissions. It’s good that a local newspaper covers those stories, but in the end the panel’s decision is based on oral and written submissions, not newspaper stories, or for that matter positions or statements made by local politicians outside of the hearing process.