Airiport Money Saver...don't clear the runway!

A Jazz plane did land to take the out bound passengers to Vancouver this afternoon aparently… I guess it’s a different aircraft… I feel sorry for the folks that had to bus from PG

From: Vancouver Intl (YVR) To: Digby Island (YPR)

AC8278 8:05 8:02 10:03 12:52 Delayed Arrived at Gate

I question if Prince Rumour is at work again… morning flight shows a 4 hour delay into Rupert nothing about a diverson to PG

Maybe that plane had snow tires,(sorry I just couldn’t help myself)

[quote=“jamesbrown”]From: Vancouver Intl (YVR) To: Digby Island (YPR)

AC8278 8:05 8:02 10:03 12:52 Delayed Arrived at Gate

I question if Prince Rumour is at work again… morning flight shows a 4 hour delay into Rupert nothing about a diverson to PG[/quote]

No it appears to have been diverted

flightaware.com/live/flight/JZA2 … /CYVR/CYPR

morning Air Canada passengers finally go into downtown Rupert at 2 p.m., after having been diverted to Prince George to decide next move. They left George about noon and got to our airport about 1 pm. Runway in Rupert had not been cleared earlier - guess one man and his shovel takes longer than expected to clear an air strip. Plane made an attempt to land, but not safe to do so. Out-going passengers had to wait at airport even longer,as the visibility deteriorated during our “snow storm”. Feel sorry for those people as they were stuck over at the airport for 5 or more hours with nothing but chips and pop machines to choose from!

Good thing those New Year’s resolutions hadn’t kicked in yet.

does the airport staff go at the same time as the first flight passengers in the morning? if so that would explain why snow wasn’t cleared in time, or are they allready there?

Maybe mayor mustache came actually answer this question without it being in council

[quote=“Jabber63”]does the airport staff go at the same time as the first flight passengers in the morning? if so that would explain why snow wasn’t cleared in time, or are they allready there?

Maybe mayor mustache came actually answer this question without it being in council[/quote]

The staff are already over on Digby prior to the morning passenger arrival.

Following the airport operations from time to time i find it amusing how little people find out about a subject before they complain and spout off on a subject. Terrace Hawkair flight was diverted to Rupert yesterday and everyone had to get bused to Terrace because it couldnt land in Terrace and it happens that way far more often than you would think,Hawkair and Jazz. So where are all of the complainers now bashing the Terrace airport and its staff with their shovel.

You’re not likely to find complaints about Terrace issues in the “Prince Rupert Forum”.

The runway wasn’t the problem in Terrace. They have a plow, and it was working.

It was the lack of visibility. Unless you think that airport workers can do something about that, it’s not a valid comparison.

The thread here was about Prince Rupert not clearing the runway. I don’t know if it’s true or not, though.

Friend just got in from Vancouver on the Jazz flight, said that a Terrace flight again tonight diverted to Rupert

[quote=“MiG”]The runway wasn’t the problem in Terrace. They have a plow, and it was working.

It was the lack of visibility. Unless you think that airport workers can do something about that, it’s not a valid comparison.

The thread here was about Prince Rupert not clearing the runway. I don’t know if it’s true or not, though.[/quote]

I still think that the issue that day wasn’t perhaps the snowplow but the weather conditions at the time, that day saw a number of rather fierce snow storms blow into the region, I would imagine that the conditions at the time of the landing had more to do with the eventual diversion to PG, I think Terrace was probably suffering the same snow storm as we were at the time.

At any rate, we perhaps won’t know for sure until someone in what passes for our media looks into and perhaps offers up the correct version of the story,

Unless of course the Airport Manager happens to be a regular reader of the site, if so, this would provide a good opportunity to share the Airport’s side of the story.

If that’s the case, then yeah, file this one under “complaining about the weather.”

If they really didn’t plow the runway, then that’s something different.

When the captain announces that the run-way is not clear and there is a beautiful blue sky…one has to wonder what prevented the plane from landing!

It was snowing that day

The issue was sheet ice under the snow. Once it was plowed, it flash froze. I would think that folk would be happy that all persons involved, were and are, concerned for the well being of the passengers!!!

The issue was sheet ice under the snow. Once it was plowed, it flash froze. I would think that folk would be happy that all persons involved, were and are, concerned for the well being of the passengers!!!

Interesting. Was the Urea which is laid out after plowing/sweeping the runway not working? Usually takes about 20 minutes on the ice to see some progress. The wind even gusting at 30 knots would not blow the urea away. You seem to be in the know so i am curious.

The weather conditions for that morning were clear up until 21:06 zulu time which is 13:06 PST, or 1:06 pm pacific time. Weather at 10:00 am was wind - 320 degrees true @ 10 knots gusting 19 knots, sky was clear with 9 statute miles visibility, temperature was 01 to minus 03 degrees celcius, altimeter 2946. Weather at 11:00 am was basically the same except the wind gusts were gone and the temp changed to 02 to minus 04. Skip to 21:06 Zulu which is 1:06 pm in the afternoon and the weather changed to Wind variable 11 knots, 2.5 statute miles visibility with mist, few clouds @ 900 feet, scattered clouds @ 3500 feet, overcast @ 5000 feet, temperature was between 01 to 0 degrees. The temperature never went below minus 01 degrees for at least the previous 8 hours and had stop snowing before 9:00 am. This is all reported from the automated weather station at the airport.

30/12/2011 18:00-> METAR CYPR 301800Z AUTO 32010G19KT 280V340 9SM CLR 01/M03
A2946 RMK PRESRR SLP979 MAX WND 29024KT AT 1712Z=

30/12/2011 19:00-> METAR CYPR 301900Z AUTO 32005KT 9SM CLR 02/M04 A2952 RMK
PRESRR SLP997 MAX WND 33023KT AT 1817Z=

30/12/2011 21:06->
SPECI CYPR 302106Z AUTO VRB11KT 2 1/2SM BR FEW009 SCT035
OVC050 01/M00 A2959 RMK PRESRR SLP022 MAX WND
29019KT AT 2106Z=